April 26, 2005
Dog Bites Man

"Democrats used power to spend"

The state Legislature kicked off three months ago amid widespread predictions that the Democrats in charge would increase taxes, spend more money, and cater to the demands of political allies.

The predictions were right.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at April 26, 2005 01:23 PM | Email This
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1. NO tell me it is not so. Democrats increased spending. Did they not say they had to increase taxes to cover a deficit. A deficit due to their excessive spending but that doesnt matter.
Here we had over a billion dollars more in money come into the Government hands. The democrats spent that nearly two fold. Yet not one dime of this increase in income went to transportation. We know that if they have more money coming in they will spend it on anything but the roads or education. Notice how many of these increases are tied to education and transportation.
So how could the Democrats increase spending. Did not the Governor say No tax increase. Is not the Democratic party the party of feeling everyones pain. No they could not increase any taxes. IT is all the Republicans fault because a couple of them voted for it.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on April 26, 2005 01:32 PM
2. Gee that's never happened before.

Posted by: JDH on April 26, 2005 01:35 PM
3. I am one First Tuesday in November from having to make the decision of relocating. God help this State.

Posted by: Editor on April 26, 2005 01:36 PM
4. The admission by Julia Patterson's aid that nothing has been done about transportation for the last 20 years is a back-handed slap at the Dems since they are the ones who have been in control of the governor's mansion for the last 20 years.

Posted by: Tucker on April 26, 2005 02:09 PM
5. And to think I almost believed they had "morphed" into the party of fiscal conservatism.

This is one I am going to blame Bush's spending habits on.

Posted by: swatter on April 26, 2005 02:14 PM
6. Thank goodness they have finally done SOMETHING in Olympia about transportation, even if this means raising our taxes, as least there is some light at the end of the tunnel. As for Senator Poulsen touting that this has been a Seattle Session, what the heck have all these politicians been doing for the past 20 years?

Posted by: Tinkerbell Hilton on April 26, 2005 02:46 PM
7. Where did I put that Boise real estate listing?

Posted by: jcm on April 26, 2005 03:02 PM
8. Thee SOMETHING amounts to raising taxes, if that is what it takes to impress you.... ... .. . oh well.

Posted by: JDH on April 26, 2005 03:03 PM
9. I feel like the Dems think of us as naughty little kids who need to be punished. They come to our homes in the burbs every election and lie to us about their intentions. They pass themselves off as moderates and renounce the need for new taxes. Once in, they vote with their socialist collegues from the city.
When are the people in this State going to wake up and let these pols know who is in charge?

Posted by: Brad on April 26, 2005 03:06 PM
10. How about...Jackass bites Man?

Posted by: Susu on April 26, 2005 03:13 PM
11. The way I see it, it is already too late to boot these tax-and-spend no-good legislators next election, because damage is already done. No one will have the guts to undo the damage, and there isn't a way to revoke the legislation that has already passed. Does initiative process allow overturning the legislation such as the gasoline tax? How about an initiative on repealing the death tax? where is Eyman Talk?

Talk about disenfranchisement!!!!! I bacame US citizen in Jan 2004, voted for the first time last November, and I am not sure if voting really matters any more since changes in government is always after the fact anyway, and nothing is undone and never will.

Posted by: C. Oh on April 26, 2005 03:27 PM
12. Thank goodness they have finally done SOMETHING in Olympia about transportation, even if this means raising our taxes, as least there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

Tinkerbell,
That's the thing. This current pacakge won't do diddly/squat for transportation.

Why? Because it doesn't fund anything all the way. Take the viaduct - they're $2billion (at least) short. The rest of that money has to come from Seattle and King County. Think about that one - 1 city has to match the tax load provided by the rest of the state.

The whole transpo bill is a farce, IMO. They did it to collect some more revenue that they can "tax" at 9% (remember, the state charges itself sales tax, and that goes right into the general fund).

In other words, in the next couple of years you'll see a mysterious boost in revenue in the general fund...and the democrats will crow about how good they are financially. Makes me wretch.

Posted by: Steve_dog on April 26, 2005 03:38 PM
13. Look on the bright side. At least the Times reported this accurately. Before we had any backlash/Sound Politics, the headline would have been
"Democrats use power to save world"

Posted by: 80sHairdo on April 26, 2005 04:08 PM
14. "Thank goodness they have finally done SOMETHING in Olympia about transportation, even if this means raising our taxes, as least there is some light at the end of the tunnel. As for Senator Poulsen touting that this has been a Seattle Session, what the heck have all these politicians been doing for the past 20 years?"


ACK!
No offense tinkerbell....but.. you aren't from this state ..are you?

Finally doing something in Olympia on transportation? The only something they are doing in Olympia is robbing the taxpayors blind!
Were you aware that nationally - gas prices went down 4.5 cents over the past 2 weeks? We didn't see it here in Washington did we? We will never see it here......

Why do you suppose we have the 3rd highest gas tax in the country - BEFORE this new tax is added? Because the Liberals in the legislature have already pulled this transportation scare tactic on us in years past! Yet - they never used our money for the transporation purposes they scared us into paying for...They just squandered our money on their machine politics and now are wanting more!

Light at the end of the tunnel? Heh....the Dems won't even use our money to replace that tunnel light when it burns out.....

Pollyanna comes to mind....

Posted by: Deborah on April 26, 2005 04:25 PM
15. TBO Through the B*st*rds Out. Absolutely no incumbent gets re-elected, from dog catcher to Gov. Until we bend Olympia to the will of the people. We always end up keeping our local legislator, or the the ones we like.

We've sent a very clear message on taxes, controlling spending, the budget shortfall is new spending above this years revenue increase. Audits and accountability, they consistently refuse. Pushing mail in ballots after this years elections fiasco. King Co. the CAO.

Government is out of touch, and out of control.

We need to make Government accountable to the people again. We start with term limits at the ballot box. No-one gets reelected.

Posted by: JCM on April 26, 2005 05:04 PM
16. I read something recently that reported that the U.S. savings rate is approaching zero. That's a scary trend. Income is up, and savings are down. The marketers have done a terrific job of convincing "us" that we NEED stuff.

And now we have a legislature that is full of people with the same mindset. These folks don't understand the idea of budgeting within one's means and of putting a bit of money away. They are a group who have been raised with credit cards... don't have the money? Charge it and pay by the month!

The thing that torques me the furthest is the way that THIS legislature has tossed out a couple of citizen initiatives. The PEOPLE of the state told them that we wanted a 2/3 majority vote for new taxes. But the dems didn't like it so they back-doored us and tossed it out. We told them that our our automobile license fees were too hing, and passed a citizen's initiatie to lower them to a reasonable rate. So now we are going to see them go back up again, based on weight.

It's a shame.

Posted by: Darrell on April 26, 2005 05:09 PM
17. The TAX & SPEND Democrats in Olympia really stuck it to the Washington State voters this year. When will the citizens ever learn that no matter what a liberal says, when they get to Olympia the result will be higher taxes. What is it going to take for voters to stop the roller coaster of ever higher taxes to support ever higher expenditures, and on, and on?

Makes a low tax state like Nevada look more attractive every day!

Posted by: Clean House on April 26, 2005 05:12 PM
18. Shouldn't the headline be:

DINO ROSSI SHOWS NO LEADERSHIP, STAYS QUIET THROUGHOUT ENTIRE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

Think about it, won't you?

Posted by: JDB on April 26, 2005 05:19 PM
19. Dog bites man... I see you read Mr. Taranto :)

Posted by: bmvaughn on April 26, 2005 05:26 PM
20. Pretty desperate there JDB.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 26, 2005 05:52 PM
21. If the 9.5 cents a gallon raises 8.5 billion, I want to know where all of the billions from the current tax of 28 cents a gallon goes to????????

Posted by: sgmmac on April 26, 2005 05:55 PM
22. And how outraged would JDB would be if Rossi had had the nerve to comment on the current legislative session.

Posted by: JCM on April 26, 2005 06:00 PM
23. I think the fact that JDB hasn't commented in the threads about Dean Logan's deposition says it all.

Either JDB hasn't read the deposition (showing partisan lack of interest), or JDB realizes exactly how Dean Logan just admitted fraud and willful violations of Washington State election statutes.

But I'll keep looking for JDB on the other comment threads.

Posted by: Larry on April 26, 2005 06:19 PM
24. Prediction: The Dems are going to sit on the gas tax dough until such time that KC will have to fund the rest of the proposed road work. They won't be able to fund it and there will be no support for another local increase should the tides turn on Simms and his pickpocket bunch. A veto to any tax increase on the local level is sure to follow. So the State will then attempt to go back to us for yet another increase while they have squandered millions in consulting fees. (Another way of lining the pockets of the party loyal).They will fail in their attempt to stick it to us again.

Since construction is due to start sometime between 2008 to 2013 (depending on the source of the rest of the money), a considerable amount will have been set aside and may never be used. A vote, out of convenience, will then deposit some of those funds into that black hole they call the general fund...and in turn they will give themselves more raises while the rest of us b*tch about prices at the pump and the high cost of booze and tobacco used to numb the effects of incessant tax increases.
If there are mandates built in to the tax increase legislation, they will figure out a way to get around it. They always do!

As for those of you who would leave the great State of WA…cowards!….all of you! Pay no attention to the fact that the more hostile business environment will force you out whether you like it or not. (Come-on! leave broke, like the rest of us migrants looking for a job and some tax relief). So if you could get out of the way, my bags are already packed! I will, however, wait until November. Casting a ballot for a straight Republican ticket…with the hope that those Party members that voted for this increase won’t make the first cut during our primary. OK….I am done being cynical.

Posted by: R.W. Nut on April 26, 2005 06:27 PM
25. The tax and fees raise that amount of money over time, 15 years I think. The fees were raised because gas tax revenue has to be spent on roads or ferries. That wouldn't provide any more money for bus service for Seattle.


The package passed provides for $2 billion so Seattle can have a more esthetically pleasing highway without paying the tab. I-405, $975 million, and 520 $500 million.


This legislative session was about Seattle and democrats and their supporters, have no doubt. The Viaduct received more funding than 520 and 405 combined, yet 520 arguably benefits Seattleites as much as Eastsiders. The Viaduct received the most funding, yet Seattle has less than one-third the population of King County.

Posted by: South County on April 26, 2005 06:28 PM
26. Had to chuckle when I saw Cantwell talking about getting more federal funding for these projects. Can you imagine the White House appointments secretary when Senators Murray and Cantwell call and ask for an appointment with the President to talk about transportation funding for Washington state.

Posted by: Huey on April 26, 2005 07:04 PM
27. Huey,

Those are two reasons that Seattle Democrats are so ignorant. Reason number three is Jim McDermott. Murray, Cantwell, and McDermott have no power whatsoever on Capitol Hill. They are openly mocked more than they are respected. Yet Seattle keeps voting them in, and wondering why no federal monies come out this way. Go figure.

Posted by: Larry on April 26, 2005 07:45 PM
28. The only thing Dems care about is that the person in office has a "D" behind their name ...makes no never mind that they have a brain, political clout, a conscience, or otherwise.

If the liberals in Seatle would understand that simple fact, they might evaluate a candidate more for thier abilty to represent our needs not so much our desires.

No sane indivdual will suffer the extremists on the left to impose some socialist/utopian agenda. It's an impossible dream...come back to earth and address the needs.

We need qulity representation to bring home the bacon for the benefit of our State as a whole. this will not happen because Dems seem more concerned about their own ego. When they finally put their own concerns aside and strive to make a large majority of their constituants happy, they will become great leaders ala Scoop Jackson.

Posted by: r on April 26, 2005 09:02 PM
29. Hey Eastern Washington are you feeling like you are a real winner this time around? The 206'ers strike again.

Posted by: Bigbird on April 26, 2005 09:58 PM
30. My sister works in Olympia, in fairly close proximity to the people making and implementing these decisions. She is very good at legalese but is not an attorney. She has the clear unambiguous verbage that could un-do all they've done - via a new initiative. She can not have her name involved. If there are any attorneys that might be willing to assist, please contact me.

Posted by: Julie on April 26, 2005 10:06 PM
31. Of all the tax raising they did (which was not accompanied by belt tightening), the ugliest was the new fees added to get a marriage license.

These new fees go to a "domestic violence advocacy account." What that means is that angry man-hating social workers and lawyers will be working extra time to convince as many women as they can to get a divorce. The underlying theory they work with is that the institution of marriage is a tool of patriarchy and therefor should be destroyed.

Think of the cynisism of this fee. They are essentially saying that marriage results in domestic violence, and so the men getting married (since they are usually the ones going out and buying the marriage license) should have to pay a tax up front because down the road they will beat their wives.

That is pretty sick and twisted on the part of our politicians. The mythology of domestic violence has gone too far.

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on April 26, 2005 10:11 PM
32. Julie,

From what I understand ....the legislature passed an emergency act that protects their new gas tax from the people's referendum process?

Can someone verify this?

Posted by: Deborah on April 26, 2005 10:58 PM
33. To be percise, our benevolent and thrifty representatives did exactly as Julie states. By declaring the bill, ESSB 6103 (for your viewing pleasure,) an emergency.
I quote from the bills language..

Section 504 – Sections 101 through 105,107,301 through 304, 403 through 408, and 501 of this act are necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, or safety, or support of the state government and its existing public institutions, and take effect July 1, 2005.

This makes it exempt from referendum
I say park your cars for a week and see how quick the gas price drops, and let those in Olympia understand Supply and Demand economics.

Posted by: Jim L on April 26, 2005 11:41 PM
34. You've got to love that picture with those fartheads up their singing, celebrating the fact that they finally got away with shafting taxpayers in a big way, much bigger than ever before.

Next thing you know, they are going to be pushing an income tax. If there is any saving grace of this, hopefully, it will be that taxpayers will vote these asswipes out of office. Of course, King County elections might have a thing or two to say about that.

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on April 26, 2005 11:45 PM
35. "King County elections might have a thing or two to say about that."

Hopefully those currently so employed will not be and the ringleaders enjoying life as involuntary guests of the state.

Posted by: scott158 on April 27, 2005 12:26 AM
36. The people can re-define the allowable usage of the word "emergency" so that it can only be used in circumstance that would cause irrepairable damage if NOT taken to a vote of the people. My sister explained it all to me and I will massacre it if I keep going with it, but there is a way. She said this has been going on for many years but the abuses are getting more blatant.

Posted by: Julie on April 27, 2005 07:43 AM
37. I'm already massacring it - sorry - please flip the "NOT taken" to "taken".

Posted by: Julie on April 27, 2005 07:59 AM
38. ...with the help of 11 Republicans you might add. Those 11 so called Republicans are a blight on their party and have betrayed the cause of conservatives in this state who voted for them. They should never see another November election day as a candidate. As for Democrats, they're just doing what Democrats do; Say they won't raise taxes, then hit us with some big tax whoppers after the (stolen) election. Nuthin new. Republicans who support ANY Democrat legislation (after a stolen election and being shut out from influencing any bills) should be deprived of any Republican Party funds in the future, be dis-invited to any Republican planning meetings (if there are any) and have their little blue Republican Party Plastic Cards taken away.

Posted by: Scott C on April 27, 2005 08:21 AM
39. "Republicans who support ANY Democrat legislation (after a stolen election and being shut out from influencing any bills) should be deprived of any Republican Party funds in the future, be dis-invited to any Republican planning meetings (if there are any) and have their little blue Republican Party Plastic Cards taken away."

Exactly right. This is what I said the minute it became clear that they were going to steal the election for Fraudoire. Any Republican who cooperates with an illegitimate Governor and the Party of same should be drummed out of the party. They aren't doing themselves, the people they represent, or their party any good by doing that.

In fact, they should go a step further. Tie all these 'Rat proposals up for as long as possible, using whatever means necessary. It's the only tool you have to show your continuing opposition to an illegitimate Governor. Any cooperation only lends credibility to an illegitimate process, as will be used, you can be sure, by the 'Rats come the next election ("See, we got things done in a bipartisan manner, so re-elect us."). IMO, when the had their faux coronation of Fraudoire, any Republicans in that chamber should have gotten up and walked out, if they had any guts. That place should have been empty of any Republican lawmakers. Let Fraudoire and the 'Rats engage in their circle jerk if they want, but let them stand alone doing so.

Posted by: Interested Observer on April 27, 2005 10:07 AM
40. One of our representatives "sold out" on the gas tax. We are too upset for words, but we won't forget at the polls. We live in an all-R district (Rossi Country, to be exact), and I have no idea who he thought he was representing. I am too upset to contact him right now. I'd rather confront him face-to-face. He won't be able to fool a grandma with a lot of smooth talk in that southern drawl. I'll ask him what cookie jar he stuck his hand into. Slap, slap!

Posted by: lksimstrailgrammy on April 27, 2005 01:01 PM
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