April 19, 2005
"Be nice to Dean Logan"

Former Sen. Slade Gorton told some great stories at tonight's 43rd District Republican meeting about his time in the legislature back in the 1950s and 1960s. Did you know that the 43rd District used to be the most solidly Republican part of the state? Hard to believe today. Part of his explanation for this is that the Republicans used to be the upper income party, but now the Democrats are the party of the very poor and the very rich, while the Republicans are the party of the middle class and Seattle has the Democrat extremes of wealth. How can Republicans regain support in Seattle, a member of the audience asked? "There are still a lot of people here who are conservative culturally, socially and fiscally. Try to find the people who already agree with you, but don't necessarily realize it yet"

Gorton also said that he's quite optimistic about the election contest, especailly in light of the revelations out of the King County Elections in the last week. I asked him to elaborate on his statement a couple of weeks ago that "King County has the worst elections administration of any county in the United States of America." He was specifically referring to King County's inability to account for its ballots and to verify whether the ballots that were counted came from actual voters. Nothing this bad has ever come to light, not in any of the recent controversies in Wisconsin, Ohio or Florida. He also hinted that Dean Logan might have made some interesting admissions under deposition this week. My favorite line: "Be nice to Dean Logan. He's the best witness we have".

Which brings me to my favorite line from Chris Vance's talk at the Downtown Republican Club on Monday: "We should have this whole thing wrapped up by July 4. Then they'll come and move Christine Gregoire out of the Governor's Mansion, and I'll be standing across the street waving"

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at April 19, 2005 11:24 PM | Email This
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1. Well I've offered any number of times to help her move, so it's not like we haven't tried to be helpful. July 4th has some nice symbolism.

It would be fun to have a big block party down there. Big tent, music, BBQ, etc. Have lunch on the lawn while the band plays in a gazebo. Games for the kids. Patriotic talks. Homemade ice cream. Honor the vets. Prayer for the country.

One thing that has bothered me about this mess is that it has all the signs of being the product of a junior varsity group of players, but it's actually the Dem A list. Pretty sad if you think about it. What would Scoop and some of the others that served with integrity say about it? Think orange, most likely.

Thanks for the update.

Posted by: scott158 on April 19, 2005 11:47 PM
2. I'll put odds on that. Great work Stefan!! I can't wait, Independence day!

Posted by: Splatter on April 19, 2005 11:49 PM
3. Nah, we need her long gone before then!

July 4 would be a perfect day for an inaugeration and to celebrate God, country and Rossi.

Posted by: Cheryl on April 19, 2005 11:53 PM
4. I sure hope the deposition becomes public record when the trial is over or at some point during the trial.

I want to read what Dean Logan has to say to a court of law instead of his glib answers to concerned citizens at his faux appeasement town hall meetings.

Looking forward to a great summer.

Posted by: Jeff B. on April 19, 2005 11:53 PM
5. BTW Stefan,

Nice to see from you. I'm sure you are neck deep and KC just keeps on shoveling, but I want you to know you are appreciated. You have done a good thing, m Man.

Posted by: Splatter on April 19, 2005 11:56 PM
6. Hmmmmm. A moving party. I like the sound of that.

I am reminded of the WA DC get out of Mr. Chenney's house chants.

Before we get all warm and cozy, we need to remember that it will be an extremely ugly November election campaign. The Dem's will throw every piece of mud they can get their hands on. They have found the taste of power to be intoxicating.

I would like to suggest that there needs to be some mass organization to purge voter rolls prior to the November election. I am not sure if Sam Reed can be counted on to get his data base in place and counties to get the deed done in time. I also will not trust King County to run an election unless it is under the supervision of judges.

Posted by: Bob on April 20, 2005 12:26 AM
7. I'm dying to know what becomes of all of her actions as Governor after she is invalidated? Does the acting Gov quickly sign into law what she had signed to validate it?

It would be nice to know if Rossi can un-do the horrific damage the Democrats with Gregoire have done since January!
I have a laundry list for him...

1. Veto the Democrats attempt to raise our taxes.
2. Veto the Democrats repeal of initiative 601.
3. Veto the whimpy election reform package the Democrats shoved through and adopt the Republican package.
4. Veto the option to go to an all mail voting system.
5. Change King County elections department to become uniform with the other counties in the state.
6. Call for a federal investigation into the state elections over the past 10 years.
7. Call for an investigation into the CAO.
8. Call for a citizens vote on the CAO.

I could go on and on......

Posted by: Deborah on April 20, 2005 12:27 AM
8. Deborah - I have a laundry list for him...

Unfortunately we will have to wait until 2007 to undo anything signed by Gre-Gore. Even though she will be shown to be illegitimately elected, our constitution still recognizes her election until it is voided.

Its just too bad it will take until July. If the case had gone faster we might have had a chance to head off the cancellation of I-601 (which by the way expires in 2007) and the tax increases this session wouldn't have been possible.

At least we won't see any more tax increases in the next session with Rossi in the Governor's mansion.

Posted by: DeadWood on April 20, 2005 12:45 AM
9. Christine...don't get to comfy in that chair cause your gonna be walk'in.......

Posted by: Route101 on April 20, 2005 05:48 AM
10. These canvassing board tapes are where the rubber met the road.
What did Election Director Logan report to Canvassing Board member Logan and his ever faithful bloodhound, Larry Phillips?
Logan dug himself such a hole with public statements and futile attempts to rationalize the unexplainable...he was finally at the final crossroads. Nowhere to hide.
Just explain that he screwed up...big-time.
Dem Lawyers are not happy with Logan.
Why??
Because he answered most of the questions truthfully and in detail. HOW AWFUL!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on April 20, 2005 06:14 AM
11. Route 101--
You just gave may an idea for a song to play in the background as they show Chris, Mike and kids packing stuff into their U-Haul out of the Mansion..
Dress the whole family in combat boots and play Nancy Sinatra's "These boots are made for movin'"

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on April 20, 2005 06:17 AM
12. When Queen Chris gets tossed on July 4. What is the status of all the legislation she signs? Since her election would have been ruled invalid, does that invalidate all the bills she signed? I imagine a huge court battle over that. It would make sense to me that anything signed by a Gov. improperly placed into office would be invalid, but what is the law?

Following the thread: Queen Chris is out, Judge Bridges has said he can invalidate the election but not order a new one. Therefore the scenario looks like this. Brad Owen steps in as acting Gov. until the Nov. election. (Will Dean still be running KC elections then?) For the Nov. election do we also redo the primaries? Is a completely new race for Gov. or a re-run?

If it's a completely new election, with new primaries what are Gregoire's chance of being the Dem's candidate?

Everything I have seen so far focuses on tossing the Queen. Being overly optimistic and given what's public knowledge, and the Dems reactions to all this I am assuming a Republican / Rossi win in the election challenge. Has anybody really examined the fallout and ramification of a win.

I don't want to see Republican standing around on July 5th with the "we won, now what" look.

This going to be so much fun!!!

Posted by: JCM on April 20, 2005 06:20 AM
13. Jeff B.

Rossi hq says the Logan deposition will be public record when the opening gavel is struck. There are several of us at Free Republic.com working to get a copy so we can compare it with any testimony he gives. The depo itself may open the doors to a criminal investigation.

OH - WOW >>> THIS JUST IN!

Christine Gregoire has issued an official proclaimation stating that Jefferson County will herein after be recognized as being named after George Jefferson. In a statement Gregoire said, "George was the inspirational head of, 'the Jeffersons' who were the subject of a popular ethnic situational program in the 80's which portrayed the struggles of a black family as they 'moved on up' inspite of evil right wing efforts to deny their place in society."

Posted by: Baynative on April 20, 2005 06:58 AM
14. If middle class voters are increasingly Republican, how about doing something that helps create and maintain the middle class and thereby creates more Republicans? The largest employer in the US is Wal-mart. Hmmm...what could help those workers reach the middle class? I wonder! I know! Get rid of the unions!

Posted by: s-choir on April 20, 2005 07:13 AM
15. What's wrong with a special session of the legislature?

And I thought if Rossi won the court case, he would push for a new election. There was speculation he said he wouldn't accept the court's reversal, but demand another election.

I certainly hope that is still true.

Posted by: swatter on April 20, 2005 07:23 AM
16. Special elections are set by the legislature. I don't think this bunch would setup one. They are completely and utterly tone deaf, just look at what coming out of Oly and public opinion about those issues.

The Dems are hoping that we have short memories and by the time the challenge is over, by the time a new election is run, Nov. or sooner. By then we will have forgetten all about this session the arrogance of the Dems.

I seriously doubt a specail elections will take place, a special election would be right thing to do, but I expect Nov. gubenatorial election.

Posted by: JCM on April 20, 2005 07:38 AM
17. Baynative - Is it true that TEMPORARY governor gregoire also dedicated Clark County in honor of the Clark bar, long rumored to be the favorite confection of MLK?

Headlice - Glad to see you still around and insane. Always look forward to the next bizarre thing you have to utter.
Just watch out for the guys in the butterfly nets.....

Posted by: alphabet soup on April 20, 2005 07:40 AM
18. Besides - What do you expect from a woman who was named after a bad Stephen King movie?

Posted by: alphabet soup on April 20, 2005 08:11 AM
19. Is that you, rockrr?

Posted by: Baynative on April 20, 2005 08:13 AM
20. You are right s-choir. Republicans do not want to get ahead by hand outs or (temporarily) higher wages. If these artificially high wages were not there do you really think so much low skilled labor would have been sent oversees?

Posted by: Fred on April 20, 2005 08:19 AM
21. s-choir,

They haven't stopped feeding you since your brain stopped working?

Posted by: Larry on April 20, 2005 08:44 AM
22. s-choir: "Get rid of the unions."

Finally! A troll that says something that makes some sense. Are you starting to figure it out?

Posted by: smoke on April 20, 2005 09:16 AM
23. Blessed Be The Name Of Our Lord

My commitment to Dino still stands, when the time comes, College Republicans will personally help him move into the governor's mansion.

We'll also be in Chelan for "vacation" right around the end of May. People, its a beautiful time of year in Chelan; won't you please join us?

Blessed Be The Name Of Our Lord

Posted by: Patrick E. Bell on April 20, 2005 09:40 AM
24. Great post. Thanks, Stefan. Hey, let's buy Dean Logan lunch! And then we'll invite him to a fairwell party for X-tine down at the capitol on the Gov. mansion lawn on oh, about July 4th.

Posted by: Michele on April 20, 2005 09:48 AM
25. "There are still a lot of people here who are conservative culturally, socially and fiscally. Try to find the people who already agree with you, but don't necessarily realize it yet"

This is very true. I worked with someone that lives in Seattle who when asked where he was in the political spectrum replied that he was very liberal. However, upon comparing beliefs (i.e. taxes, immigration, etc.), we were astonished to find that he was actually more conservative than liberal. He refused to believe that he was even remotely 'conservative'. He fully believed that he was a liberal. Unfortunately, I think he still think's he's a liberal and votes the Dem party line. Sad really.

Posted by: Mikey on April 20, 2005 10:01 AM
26. I think it's pretty near impossible to wage an elections contest without falling into partisan lines, but c'mon...calling the KC elections administration the worst requires a hell of a lot more substantiation than the fact that there was an inability to account for ballots. It's a grossly exaggerated statement that simply can't be proven--unless perhaps we farm Stefan out to each county in the country.

It's statements like that that I think cloud the fact that there are real problems to fix here. Why do we need to draw a comparison with Ohio, Florida, or whereever? It's obvious that major problems exist in numerous counties and they can be different (it's easy to verify, count, and tabulate votes when a significant number of voters stay home because they don't want to wait several hours to vote.)

We can focus on the facts and the goal that most of us can get behind regardless of party: account for every single vote and do not rely on statistical inferences for voter intentions.

Gordon's making that comment was stupid--it's comparing apples to oranges, and I think it makes a difficult road to reform even more difficult. Plus when you pit Weird Al against Skeletor, people are going to side with Weird Al.

Posted by: ChrisW on April 20, 2005 10:30 AM
27. July 4? Perfect weather for the executive branch moving vans to pull into a Tent City. Reality TV--actually living among your constituents and walking the talk. Talk about "extreme makeover!" Will we get the big pouty faces and crocodile tears reserved only for young, devoted election volunteers? Can't wait to tune in.

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on April 20, 2005 10:35 AM
28. patrick e bell: Funny you should mention Chelan County. According to an article in yesterday's "Times",Chelan Cty. is one of the biggest pot growing areas on the West Coast. The article said they can grow lots of pot because of the remote areas, an experienced Mexican work force, and the fact that they pay more than anyone else in the area--for the type of work the Mexican laborers do. It's the free market in action, and we don't want the government to interefere with that, do we?

Posted by: s-choir on April 20, 2005 10:42 AM
29. "There are still a lot of people here who are conservative culturally, socially and fiscally. Try to find the people who already agree with you, but don't necessarily realize it yet"
I think that this is a good starting point, but the lack of integrity in the dems/kce may be a real eye opener, and many that vote dem reflexively may be asking the question of what all else isn’t ringing true. It’s not that so many will see integrity as the number one priority, although there will be some. But not everyone is so blindly loyal as the dems would presume.
For example, a person who habitually votes dem may do so on a basis of “principle” on one issue such as minimum wage or abortion rights, only to now see principle swept away in a sea of expedient self-interest.
Hopefully, slavish devotion to an agenda that is not in the public’s best interest will be seen for what it is when exposed by the cold light of reason.

Posted by: scott158 on April 20, 2005 11:12 AM
30. Absolutely right s-choir, just as we do not want the government involved in hired killers. Its the free market. Nor do we want the government involved in theft, the free market should decide what is secure...

So let us abolish all laws (and forsake the constitution that specifically states the government's role is security), and just let the free market decide!

Posted by: Fred on April 20, 2005 11:36 AM
31. They're not hired killers. They're Pinkerton Detectives.

Posted by: s-choir on April 20, 2005 12:01 PM
32. PS--Can't believe the 43rd district used to be Republican! As long as I've been in Seattle it has never been anything but a cesspool of hate-filled, scarey radical leftists posters on the telephone polls with all the accompanying community activity characteristic of such. The U and the students are almost the only saving grace in the area.

Posted by: Michele on April 20, 2005 12:04 PM
33. Loved your post about Jefferson County.
Unfortunately, there may be a grand total of 13 Afro-Americans in the whole County. Most are very Conservative in a County dominated by LEFTIST, tolerance & diversity clowns that want to help our blacks even though they don't need or even want their help.

I do like George Jefferson though.
A real Capitalist...thru & thru.
And his lovely wife Weazie...wonderful lady
Didn't George have a geeky whiteguy brother-in-law??

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on April 20, 2005 02:40 PM
34. If Vance is right, I'll be there next to him, waving, dancing, doing backflips, and singing hallelujah!

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on April 21, 2005 01:22 PM
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