It only keeps getting weirder:
The King County Elections Division admitted it made a mistake with absentee ballots for a special election later in April that were going to overseas and military voters.But at least they were mailed out on time. Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at April 05, 2005 09:56 PM | Email ThisKING 5 News was told that eight voters have complained that their packets did not contain ballots.
King County went to all the trouble to send a security envelope with no ballot inside, and was proud that they mailed them out on time?
Either way (Gross fraud or incompetence beyond believable limits) Democrats should not be allowed to run election departments.
Yes, time to finger print the envelope to see which dufus at King County handled it to see if there is an election fraud pattern.
This is likely to get really interesting. I just hope that a lot of democrats end up going to jail when they start trying to hide what happend while under oath in the Governors race challenge. The house of cards is likely to come down on the Dem's.
Posted by: Bob on April 5, 2005 10:28 PM:-)
Government runs the elections...
Government tabulates the elections results...
The People are expected to police, audit and account for the Government's incompetence in conducting these so called elections that are the foundation of the peoples democracy???
And WHY do I pay taxes to a fraudulent, incompetent Government?
The HELL with INTERVENTION, How about REVOLT!
The Boston Tea Party wasn't that long ago!
Na Na Na Na,
Na Na Na Na,
Dean Logan,
Goodbye.
This IS a Federal offense!
Here they come! The cavalry!
Did anyone notice how bad Ron Sims looked on the news today? Hair must have been 10 shades of grey lighter than last week! He looked stressed....
He...just....can't...take....much.....more.....exposure
Posted by: Deborah on April 5, 2005 11:17 PM"Now, in light of the latest mistake, they are on paid leave – indefinitely."
Gee, I wish I could have a job where I could screw up, screw up, and screw up yet again, and be rewarded for it by being sent on permanent paid vacation. Seriously, as these people being punished, or rewarded?
Posted by: Jason on April 5, 2005 11:20 PMIt is very inconvenient and downright inefficient for these "experts" to evaluate ballots that have marks on them. Therefor, Gregoire determined that, as part of her efficiecy in government program, a certian percentage of envelopes will go out with ballots. That way, there is very little rationalization required when determining that a vote for Rossi, for example, is really a vote for Gregoire.
Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on April 5, 2005 11:36 PMNUFF SAID!!!!
Pudster
Posted by: Puddybud on April 5, 2005 11:42 PMAlternatively, the next election ought to be interesting, no?
Posted by: Patrick E. Bell on April 6, 2005 12:52 AMDon't miss this part of the Times' article [emphasis added is mine]:
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**The news from Sims' office yesterday OVERSHADOWED an internal report that said ELECTION WORKERS KNEW IN NOVEMBER that they had lost track of 86 ballots — now known to be 93 — even while MANAGERS WERE PUBLICLY REPORTING THEY HAD ACCOUNTED FOR EVERY SINGLE VOTE. It's unknown if any managers were aware of the discrepancy.
The discrepancy wasn't reported to the King County Canvassing Board, which is responsible for certifying election results. THE OFFICIAL MAIL BALLOT SUMMARY REPORT to the board SHOWED NO DISCREPANCY.
The internal report, written by assistant elections superintendent Garth Fell...**
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Shorthand:
Someone FALSIFIED the report to the canvassing board.
There can be no question but that someone simply MADE UP the numbers.
1) Sounds like these new suspensions of elections workers were meant to obscure media attention to that internal report.
2) Get a copy of that internal report (cover up). I'll bet it uses passive language, as if the cavassing board report just created itself, and fails to pinpoint any one person who approved it.
3) We now have 3 workers on paid leave---workers who have knowledge of the internal workings of the department during the November fiasco. How will they be "taken care of" to ensure their future silence?
Posted by: JeanneB on April 6, 2005 04:55 AMThis is a head-shaking story....unbelieveable.
Danny
Posted by: dkpcowboy on April 6, 2005 05:32 AMMake a generic statement about the election and Gregoire and they're quick to chime in.
In the face of overwhelming evidence of the whole cloth coming apart at the seams, they don't seem to have much to say. (cloth has been lying on the ground for weeks in a pile of unravelled threads)
the dems did indeed "kick our aXX" in the election, they just didn't do it through the will of the voters. They did it through the back door of King County elections dept.
Posted by: funny on April 6, 2005 06:13 AMIf they are not already, they will be put in charge of counting
all the ballots in the next election, divining the will of the
people and tabulating the results.
I wonder if some of the voter packets had more than one
ballot in them...
http://www.komotv.com/stories/36142.htm
Did they forget all of the ballots?
I thought it was just a small percentage.
Anyway they blew up the car!! And in end the good guys win again...
May 28 Justice will prevail!!!!!!
Posted by: Terry, Clark C on April 6, 2005 08:45 AMAnyway they blew up the car!! And in end the good guys win again...
May 28 Justice will prevail!!!!!!
Posted by: Terry, Clark C on April 6, 2005 08:46 AMhttp://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/politics/06delay.html?hp&ex=1112846400&en=f4d1a399b234e303&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Get a clue folks the National scene has much more provable fraud then Washington state.
The difference is The Delays and Rumsfelds are policing themselves.
Jeez, you're right!!! We should just forget about anything that happens here in Washington State and concentrate on everything happening on the national level. After all, what happens at the state level is just the stuff that directly affects us. Not nearly as important as what happens at the national level that mostly affects what goes on at state level.
Man, we sure are lucky to have these liberals around with their superior intellect so they can show us what things we should really be looking at.
Posted by: Jay on April 6, 2005 09:22 AMThis normal throw in irrelevant garbage without all the facts to try and distract everyone from the point - THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT ELECTION ISSUES RIGHT HERE IN OUR STATE!
Posted by: Fred on April 6, 2005 09:36 AMI appreciate the superior Intellect comment. But you can always improve yourself too. If you just read a little bit more. (and less time being Foxized)
I know that your not concerned about the attempt of this administration to disolve states rights, eliminating the checks and balances of our judiciary. Essentially eliminating our ethics commitees. and continual promotion of people who under the third review of WMDs proven to be stupid. (I could go on and on)
But that's okay, you continue to ask for more(or the same, things cost more) services from the state then whine about YOU and the Taxes you might have to pay because the state doesn't want to work on the Credit cards that the Bush administration thinks you won't be alive to care about. The numbers and acts are much more staggering and far more damaging in a world economy.
Oh.
Sorry.
Key word is "SANE".
Unbelievable.
Posted by: Cheryl on April 6, 2005 09:44 AMIf a credible story about Tom Delay ever comes around why don't you post it at your website and I'm sure everyone will rush over there to see it.
. . . you dimwitted liberal dolt.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 6, 2005 09:46 AMYep, they keep pigpiling burdens on the shoulders of the citizens all the while they are crumbling from the bottom up. Their oh so predictable crash will be unlike any we've seen since the Kingdome came down.
To quote a pretty great guy... "Bring it on".
Posted by: Cheryl on April 6, 2005 09:48 AMI just thought it was etiquette not to post the whole article and to post the link, but thank you for taking the time to do so. this is just one of the many items that Delay has done. including replacing GOP members on the Ethics committee that were actually looking at the facts. He has actually made the Ethics committee toothless, and is now trying to remove the checks and balances of the senate fillibuster, which the founding fathers put there for the very reason that the voice of the minority party needs to be heard. Many Republicans are against this, because it could effect them if they ever became the minority party. but they are terrified of this guy and his vengeful history.
Posted by: Danw on April 6, 2005 09:53 AMThe Democrat's strategy is to get the media to write about it now so when the court case starts this stuff will be "old news!"
They don't want any shocking revelations to come out during the court case. They're trying to minimize the impact now while the public interest is lower.
People will shake their heads and say incompetence, and forget about it. If it comes out during the court case the general population might remember it and think that the Republican's were correct in challenging the election, then the Dem's would be in real trouble.
It's all written in the play by play.
Posted by: No Phony's Allowd on April 6, 2005 09:54 AMBut serously, folks, if our employess committed these kinds of mistakes this often we sure as heck would get them off the payroll permanently! They'd do fine in the end...they could always go just get a job with King County elections!
Posted by: Michele on April 6, 2005 10:00 AMHere is a starting point for you...I know it is probably one of those crazed liberal sites, but you asked for it, and you can Google any number of them. that still say the same thing...even Republicans are getting tired of this guy.
Wake up and quit amusing yourself so often.
http://www.dropthehammer.org/corruption/
Posted by: danw on April 6, 2005 10:04 AMCongress has the constitutional duty to define over what the judicial has authority.
If you are talking about Terri S in "disolving states rights", how does one law for one specific person do that? Many people on both sides disagreed with that action. But would you agree that our government (at all levels) has the responsibility to protect its citizens from harm?
Posted by: Fred on April 6, 2005 10:06 AMThis was while Rumsfeld tortured ex-Saddam loyalists by putting panties on their heads, Al Mengele drafted the Patriot Act, and Ashcroft secretly planned the 116th birthday party for the Fuhrer in the West Wing of the White House.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/politics/06delay.html?hp&ex=1112846400&en=f4d1a399b234e303&ei=5094&partner=homepage
They are not sure where Tom Delay fits in this but they think he may have said something religious like gosh or durn. Stay tuned!
Tickets are currently on sale at all outlets.
I have some land for sale, reel reel cheap. Interested?
Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 6, 2005 10:15 AMIt doesn't matter how many talking points memos frpm the DNC you read, you still won't be any better informed.
Posted by: MIMike on April 6, 2005 10:16 AMYes, and I expect to win the Washington State lottery tonight.
I'd better go buy a ticket, and pay my Poor Tax again.
Clinton, sure he knew the intelligence, but didn't go charging in like Custer. Maybe he didn't trust "Curveball"
Yes I would love to buy some land...best investment out there, better than the US dollar is going to be when China cashes in.
DNC talking points? sure but they tend to be from the Bush Gov reports. Talking points backed up by fact, are better than opinion.
Even Dave Reichert (R) new better than to get into the Schaivo thing. I hope congress and the president write a law for me. (wait a minute, let's mess with the constitution again, because it's not as old as the Bible)
Fillibusters not for Judges? according to Frist you're are absolutly right.....wait a minute....
OOps see attached paragragh and link.
Wake up folks, it's even your duty to question some of the policies.....just because it has an (R) behind it, doesn't make it right.
Judicial nominees have never been immune from filibusters. When Republicans opposed President Lyndon Johnson's choice for chief justice, Abe Fortas, they led a successful filibuster to stop him from getting the job. More recently, in the Clinton era, Republicans spoke out loudly in defense of their right to filibuster against the confirmation of cabinet members and judicial nominees. Republican senators, including Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and Mike DeWine of Ohio, used a filibuster in 1995 to block President Bill Clinton's nominee for surgeon general. Bill Frist, now the Senate majority leader, supported a filibuster of a Clinton appeals court nomination. Senator Christopher Bond, a Missouri Republican, was quoted in The St. Louis Post-Dispatch in 1993 saying, "On important issues, I will not hesitate to join a filibuster."
Now that Republicans are doing the appointing, they see things very differently. Dr. Frist recently declared on "Fox News Sunday" that preventing votes on judicial nominees is "intolerable." Among the proposals Republicans are floating is the so-called nuclear option. According to Senate rules, changing the filibuster rule should require a two-thirds vote. But in the "nuclear option," Vice President Dick Cheney, as Senate president, would rule that filibusters of judicial nominees could be ended by a simple majority.
Don't want to be accused of not sending the entire link.
http://www.millarworld.net/lofiversion/index.php/t42405.html
Wake up folks, it's even your duty to question some of the policies.....just because it has an (R) behind it, doesn't make it right.
Get the Party back, less spending, less invasion of states, personal rights...and other countries.
Posted by: danw on April 6, 2005 11:30 AMIt tends to be that belief here that Private enterprise is so much better and can be trusted so much more....I just was saying there are problems with both and one is not better than the other. The difference is that government activity tends to be more transparent (by law), and easier to find flaws.
Posted by: danw on April 6, 2005 11:36 AMGood. Authorize transfer of $40,000.00 to my e-mail account, and I'll send you the deed.
By the way, I hope all of you on your side believe your interpretation of the so-called "nuclear option." It will make it extra fun when they put things right by going nu-cu-ler.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 6, 2005 01:33 PM