April 04, 2005
Union brilliance

It’s amazing how much wisdom a local teachers’ union president can pack into one short newsletter article. Here are a few quotes from the March 28 newsletter of the Federal Way Education Association (by union president Shannon Rasmussen) to make you think profound thoughts:

“Instead of ‘No Child Left Behind’, which focuses only on improvement on tests and heavy-handed sanctions, our school system should be interested in seeing that every child have [sic] an opportunity to excel – at something valuable.”

I guess grammar isn’t on the list of valuables.

“It is our job to educate our public.”

“Federal Way should create a school system that we are able to stand behind and defend to the parents of our children.”

Our parents want their children to have the same kind of education that kids get in private schools.”

I sense a lot of biological confusion. But why not let all your surrogate parents send your/their kids to private schools, if that’s what your public wants?

“The best part of investing in the school system kids truly deserve is that the very programs we are finding it necessary to eliminate while playing the game are the ones shown to actually improve the very test scores we know don’t accurately indicate our children’s potential.”

YAY!! Er. Wait. Huh?

These are the people who control public schools. Think about that.

Posted by Marsha Michaelis at April 04, 2005 02:03 PM | Email This
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1. oh boy. This is a great example of why we're NOT in public school anymore!

Posted by: Michele on April 4, 2005 02:14 PM
2. This is an admirable goal: "Our parents want their children to have the same kind of education that kids get in private schools."

As 'their' parents are evidently so important, it would seem that school vouchers would be in order so that 'their' parents can get an actual private school education.

Headless' comments should be interesting, if any are forth coming.

Posted by: Fred on April 4, 2005 02:15 PM
3. Is'nt it whorable? And to think its' not coming from some of the Seattle teacher's we sometimes like to crittasize. I shutter to think someone like this might be the parent's of any children, much less, er, mine, like they say they are.

Wowzer. And too think some people still do'nt under stand why my wife got herself out of the public school's system.

Posted by: SnoCo Voter on April 4, 2005 02:16 PM
4. I guess I am a little lost on this one. I dont see the big deal of referring to the students as our kids, or to their parents as our parents. Both are the schools customers. I am sure that everyone who the memo was intended for were able to understand the meaning of it.

Posted by: Frank on April 4, 2005 02:35 PM
5. Frank, it's not the pronouns, it's the last sentence which reads like it was translated literally from Azerbaijani.

Posted by: MIMike on April 4, 2005 02:37 PM
6. Time to start chumming for trolls again...always good for a laugh.

Posted by: dkpcowboy on April 4, 2005 02:41 PM
7. In Superman's alternative pre-Turnerian backwards American frontier history, the West was covered with herds of porcine fauna. Hence, the human caretakers of such herds were referred to as ,"Pigboys", an appellation that would more realistically encompass the existential mode of the modern day dkp.... See what I'm sayin'?

Posted by: headless lucy on April 4, 2005 02:53 PM
8. Take heart. So long as this local union president is in office, there's one uneducated (but certified) "teacher" who isn't in the classroom on a regular basis. We should push for the unions to increase the number of officers who come out of the classroom and spend their time on union business.

Posted by: Micajah on April 4, 2005 03:06 PM
9. HL - I've recently been educated as to your employer. Out of curiosity, are you a union member or part of the administration?

Posted by: Regret on April 4, 2005 03:20 PM
10. In Superman's alternative pre-Turnerian backwards American frontier history, the West was covered with herds of porcine fauna. Hence, the human caretakers of such herds were referred to as ,"Pigboys", an appellation that would more realistically encompass the existential mode of the modern day dkp.... See what I'm sayin'?

I used to wonder...is there anything more devoid of intellectual content than quoting a Star Trek episode?

Thank you for answering that. (I think)

Posted by: South County on April 4, 2005 03:37 PM
11. These are the people charged with the responsibility of educating the youth. It should'nt be too much to expect that they be competent enough to string together coherent, gramatically correct sentences to form a thought. If these "so-called" educators are gramatically illiterate, what can be expected of the students.

If you're in the business of educating children, you'd damn sure better be able to communicate clearly. It is always incumbent upon the communicator to articulate information [message] clearly, rather than it being the responsibility of the listener [target] to interpret the message. When interpretation becomes necessary, the potential for error increases.

Posted by: Tom on April 4, 2005 03:53 PM
12. Ummm...

In today's educational PC-speak, I thought it was supposed to be demeaning to students to refer to them as "kids". DId the local teacher's union president somehow miss out on some in-service training days? A little sign-waving on the steps in Olympia instead of actually being present for training as expected (and paid), perhaps? Taking a few of the students along for company, right?

I also don't believe that either the parents or the students belong to the teachers' union. I realize that the concept may be a bit fuzzy to some union officers, but we are their employers. If anything, they are our teachers, and it would be really something wonderous to behold were we to actually be able to regain control of our runaway employees, would it not?

Posted by: gaelwolf on April 4, 2005 03:57 PM
13. I went looking for the full newsletter online, and came across the FWEA website (http://www.federalwayea.org). Here's the first paragraph on their homepage... see if you can spot the error:

"Dan Ostlund, the NEA Valuebuilder Representative, will be hosting a free retirement workshop at the WEA building in Federal Way for Plan 1, 2, and 3 members. Have your retirement questions answered by someone whose been helping educators since 1987!"

Whose? Yikes!

I count at least three other grammatical errors on the homepage alone. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a complete copy of the newsletter anywhere. Does anyone have an idea where it might be found?

Posted by: Mark Congdon on April 4, 2005 04:12 PM
14. There is no biological confusion that I can spot--it seems rather extreme (kind of a straw man, even) to point that out.

The final example sentence also needs some more context before we can really discuss it fairly.

So, let me wrap my head around this-- We know what kind of school system kids truly deserve. What specificially are we talking about? A self-esteem-safe school, or a productive school, or one of humanist indoctrination, or what?

And to invest in this type of school system means to eliminate some programs while playing the game...what game is this being referred to?
I can see that perhaps eliminating some bloat programs might be useful, but which programs are being eliminated?
The programs eliminated are the ones that "actually improve the very test scores we know don’t accurately indicate our children’s potential."

What tests are being referred to here? How do "we" know they don't indicate "our" children's potential? Is this potential a self esteem fantasy land (i.e. all kids can be rich, successful, beautiful and pop stars) or something else more substantive?

I can't quite see poking fun at a quote lacking any context that may clarify it.

Posted by: pseudotsuga on April 4, 2005 04:12 PM
15. English grammar rules are so nebulous and esoteric anyway. Who needs them?

If I feels good about my righting skills as an education professional, that's more impotent that someone else also understanding what I thought I meant to say. (What? 100 proof reader needed, hear and there.)

I guess H. Lucy is saying that pigs can fly.

Posted by: JG on April 4, 2005 05:15 PM
16. pseudotsuga,

I doubt the full context would make this statement appear to say anything other than what it says:

“The best part of investing in the school system kids truly deserve is that the very programs we are finding it necessary to eliminate while playing the game are the ones shown to actually improve the very test scores we know don’t accurately indicate our children’s potential.”

Let me translate:

The best part about spending more on public schools is that we wouldn't need to eliminate programs such as music instruction that studies show can improve academic performance as measured by the Washington Assessment of Student Learning. Although no such studies have ever been cited by name in my presence, and I've certainly never read any, people who are colleagues and good friends all believe such studies exist, so I do too. Although I've never actually witnessed the elimination of anything, I have seen "Mr. Holland's Opus" three times; and I'm sure it's historically accurate. And, while the WASL has been constructed by people who know far more than I -- and has been accepted by them as a valid and reliable measure of students' performance of skills that are important to their success in life -- my friends and colleagues still doubt that it is an accurate method of measuring anything that matters. Since we don't really know what we're talking about, we claim that the WASL doesn't measure "potential." That way, we can avoid going head-to-head with people who know what they're talking about -- and we might even keep some people from recognizing that the WASL is an effort to measure achievement, not potential. Despite our misgivings, the WASL is a big part of the game we must play, so give us more money.

Clear as mud?

Posted by: Micajah on April 4, 2005 05:24 PM
17. I ask you all. Contemplate the following comments(if you dare):

"In Superman's alternative pre-Turnerian backwards American frontier history, the West was covered with herds of porcine fauna. Hence, the human caretakers of such herds were referred to as ,"Pigboys", an appellation that would more realistically encompass the existential mode of the modern day dkp.... See what I'm sayin'?"

Does this sound like the utterings of someone you would like to "educate" your children?

Think about it please.

And, once again lucy, thank you very much. When any doubt may exist, that you are out of your silly addled mind, you pipe up and remove it.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 4, 2005 07:33 PM
18. Incompetence is incompetence. I've seen far too much evidence of it in our Colorado Springs schools to think it's only here. My youngest daughter has had:

- elementary school teachers who cannot add or subtract.

- junior-high history teachers who confuse Cornwallis with Sherman (and the Revolutionary War with the Civil War).

- high school science teachers who don't understand vulcanism, earthquakes (they're caused by mining, don't you know?), or covalent bonding.

These are not isolated examples. My daughter failed an American Government test because she quoted the Constitution of the United States in defining the three parts of government. Nor is it just her school - I've listened to similar complaints from students in five other schools, in three districts. That's why I'm a strong believer in posting multiple, full, well-researched and hyperlinked school curricula to the web, with free access to all. One should be the curriculum used by the local school district, and three or more should be alternate curricula posted by groups of concerned parents and other interested groups. Businesses, especially, should support this. Not only will the state-educated student be their customer, they will more often than not also be their employee. Right now, there's no way to even know what our children are being taught, and certainly no access to course material used in the classroom. There's no accountability, either to parents, to children, or to the district paying the bills. All that needs to end. The Web is the best way to hold the teaching profession's collective feet to the fire.

Posted by: Old Patriot on April 4, 2005 07:54 PM
19. I'd give him a "C-" for the run-on sentence (out of pure entertainment value), and a "D" for exchanging the words "their" and "our" inappropriately.

Posted by: Scott on April 5, 2005 10:23 AM
20. I find it hard to believe that all of you have this much time on your hands! Oh and to the person that said the public wants private schools....I beg to differ as R-55 was defeated for yet the 3rd time. Here's another novel idea...get out and volunteer in a classroom sometime rather then sitting around complaining about how awful the public schools are on this lame chat room...I think I'm dumber for having read this garbage...I'm off to read something meangingful to get this ugly taste out of my mouth.

Posted by: John on May 2, 2005 03:07 PM
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