On February 21 one of the drooling-fool blogs broke the story of the Big Binder and its precinct reconciliation reports:
this binder and the poll books are sitting down there at KC Elections for anybody to inspect. And so I asked Egan if anybody – Rossi’s attorneys, the BIAW, know-it-all right-wing bloggers – had actually asked to see this binder, and she answered yes… a single Seattle reporter.In fact, County Councilman David Irons has been asking to see the documents since January 24 and has only been stonewalled. I made a public records request for all requests to see the reconciliation documents (public records requests are themselves public records, available upon request. Be careful what you ask for). The only documents the county produced were a request from Keith Ervin of the Seattle Times, and the county's response. I can't say whether or not he is the same reporter alluded to in the quote at top. Ervin's request is dated Feb. 28. Here is King County's response to Ervin:
We will notify you ... as soon as a copy of the polling place reconciliation binder and any summary of this binder can be made available for your review. At this time, the Elections Section estimates that it may take up to 30 days to be responsiveA non-binding estimate of "up to 30 days" to see a binder that is "sitting down there at KC Elections for anybody to inspect"?
If I were the Seattle Times, I would be outraged.
King County also estimates that additional documents responsive to my request for other binder requests will be available by March 31, 2005. Hint: search Bill Huennekens' inbox for e-mails from any of the County Councilmembers and/or their staff.
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at March 09, 2005 10:59 AM | Email ThisRemember, the precindt pollbook reconciliations were required to be done on ELECTION DAY (November 2). Then the election officials (Logan and Huennekens) were required to identify ALL discrepancies, note them, investigate them, try to identify them AND REPORT THEM TO THE CANVASSING BOARD BEFORE CERTIFICATION.
They certified 3 different counts.
How in the world could something that was REQUIRED to be done 2-1/2 MONTHS ago still not be available to the public????
This is outrageous.
Obviously they are ALTERING Pollbooks, this BIG BINDER of precindt reconciliations or both.
There is no more "preparing" them. That was to be done 2-1/2 months ago.
Stefan--
With all the controversy, KingCo should have made an audio tape of it's Canvassing Board meetings. They did it in my little County so there would be clear documentation of EXACTLY what decisions were made.
Have you heard the KingCo tapes of Canvassing BOard meetings yet?????
If Logan did not tape those Canvassing Board meetings, that is even more outrageous. Then we have to rely on written minutes. Satterburg was supposedly there too. Get the tapes & minutes ASAP. I wonder if Logan accurately represented all the precindt pollbook reconciliation discrepancies?????????
I really have a problem with unelected Election Official Logan reporting to Canvassing Board member Logan and his trusty sidekick, Larry Phillips.
Maybe the evidence is so bad that KC fears the judge in the Rossi case will issue an injunction to keep Gregoire from signing any of the legislation being shoved through the legislature? (We can only hope...)
Posted by: KC in Oly on March 9, 2005 01:29 PMAdriel: Could you say that again?
Posted by: headless lucy on March 9, 2005 02:26 PMHeadless lucy defends the public education system while posting from a government computer using government internet access in a government office in a government building with on government payroll. OUTSTANDING!!!
Posted by: Mr. Cynical on March 9, 2005 03:28 PMIt's not just any government computer.
"headless lucy" posts from the Seattle Public School District!
Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on March 9, 2005 03:30 PMChew has a florid imagination.
My comments suggest nothing of the kind. I'm not in the loop on the GOP's information requests and I do not know what they have and have not asked for.
I do know that King County has not disclosed all of the requests that it has received for the information.
Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on March 9, 2005 03:45 PMPosted by: chardonnay on March 9, 2005 04:14 PM
You say: "Chew has a florid imagination.
My comments suggest nothing of the kind. I'm not in the loop on the GOP's information requests and I do not know what they have and have not asked for."
Why don't you call them up and ask them. I assume you are on good enough terms to do that. They may already have obtained them in their discovery requests and might provide you a copy. As I said I find it puzzling they haven't dones this already.
The article you quoted suggested only one other request had been made, and not by the GOP. That's why I made my "florid" suggestion.
But of course, other requests have probably been made since that article. You jogged my memory, and I seem to recall that some guy in the comments section claimed he went down their to request those docs also, and was told there were 30 to 40 others waiting for the information also. But the legal discovery process is separate from this FOIA process.
I know that as a voter I quake continuously at this website. As a reasonable person I too insist on voting often, cashing checks, and driving willy-nilly without having to show any ID. I also agree that when I am *really* dead, I should have the same right to vote as anyone else. Its a big deal to me. Further, when dead I will remember to vote Republican and like Sapporro I will refuse to show my ID.
Sapporro, imagine. If we spend hundreds to have everyone re-register they will not spend it on other things you probably don't like either.
I must admit that you make the whole issue crystal clear. If the State requires people to be alive, identify themselves, and abide by the law it would intimidate most democrats.
Sapporro, as far as you know maybe we should send ballots to many far off places. It would be an ecumenical coup for diversity and egalitarianism that could save $2B (minus postage).
Like you say, as far as you know maybe Christine Gregoire won or lost the big binder fair square so she should not be intimidated or show ID and neither should we.
For that matter so far as you know, you are Christine Gregoire. Are you Christine Gregoire?
Posted by: Amusedbyou on March 10, 2005 10:11 AMI know that as a voter I quake continuously at this website. As a reasonable person I too insist on voting often, cashing checks, and driving willy-nilly without having to show any ID. I also agree that when I am *really* dead, I should have the same right to vote as anyone else. Its a big deal to me. Further, when dead I will remember to vote Republican and like Sapporro I will refuse to show my ID.
Sapporro, imagine. If we spend hundreds to have everyone re-register they will not spend it on other things you probably don't like either.
I must admit that you make the whole issue crystal clear. If the State requires people to be alive, identify themselves, and abide by the law it would intimidate most democrats.
Sapporro, as far as you know maybe we should send ballots to many far off places. It would be an ecumenical coup for diversity and egalitarianism that could save $2B (minus postage).
Like you say, as far as you know maybe Christine Gregoire won or lost the big binder fair square so she should not be intimidated or show ID and neither should we.
For that matter so far as you know, you are Christine Gregoire. Are you Christine Gregoire?
Posted by: Amusedbyou on March 10, 2005 10:14 AMI have noticed that there is practically NO NEWS organizations reporting on this story! Hmm, are they in bed with the Democratic party! Sorry, that was a stupid question because it is obvious tha they are. When the election twice showed Rossi as the winner, those news organizations were all over this thing saying that the election is not over!!!!
I HATE Lawyers and Politicians, which are basically the same, but believe that this election has been so severely compromised that is has to been run through the legal system to show the problem! I hope the Dems can live with the fact that the MAJORITY won the election.
I don't fault the Dems for there position because they have there beliefs, I fault the ELECTION OFFICIALS for screwing up this election! They should be FIRED for their TERRIBLE work!
Posted by: VotersPrivilege on March 14, 2005 12:19 AM