March 06, 2005
The Democrats' lunatic mainstream

The lunatic fringe of the Washington State Democratic Party is not confined to their weirdo Duranty-wanna-be bloggers in Seattle and ... Portland. The lunatics are actually running the Washington Democrats' asylum.

An article in yesterday's Seattle Times suggests that WA State Democrat Chairman Paul Berendt is either a pathological liar or that he suffers from Paranoid Schizophrenia. As the Times reported, "Democratic chief says Rove lurks behind GOP suit". And were' not just talking about the gubernatorial election contest. In Berendt's elaborate delusion, Karl Rove is lurking everywhere that Washington citizens are displeased with their elected officials:

Berendt alleges in his letter that Rove's reach — on behalf of Bush — goes even further than the governor's election dispute. He says Rove is behind failed attempts to recall Republican Secretary of State Sam Reed and Democratic King County Councilman Dow Constantine.
Oh dear. The unsuccessful Dow Constantine recall was initiated by Vashon Island businessman Armen Yousoufian (who recently started his own blog, btw). I reached Yousoufian at home this morning and asked him whether Karl Rove had directed the recall attempt. He laughed very loud for a long time and said "That's news to me". And something tells me that if Karl Rove really wanted to recall Sam Reed, he would have been more successful than this.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at March 06, 2005 03:56 PM | Email This
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1. Stefan,
It's time that this question was asked. Are you being compensated for your efforts on Sound Politics? For your advocacy of what most people here consider a very just cause? If so, then would you please bring that out in the open so that criticism is not raised at a most inopportune time? If you are not being paid, how do you support a family and find the time to do all this work?

Posted by: zapporo on March 6, 2005 04:10 PM
2. Gee Armen, I had no idea you had such pull. Have you thought of running for office? With Karl Rove behind you the skys the limit.

Posted by: eastkingcountyrednecklogger on March 6, 2005 04:17 PM
3. I find it hillarious that Berendt brings forth these phony allegations of Carl Rove's involvement in the gubernatorial contest and other issues. Wasn't it left over money from Kerry's campaign given by Terry McAuliffe that paid for the Dems manual recount?
I think this is a lame attempt to get the msm off his back about the financial troubles the dems are in because of his lack of leadership and oversight of the state party.

Posted by: ChuckJ on March 6, 2005 04:19 PM
4. This is delicious! Visualize the picture of Seattle/Washington liberals frightening their children into good behavior with the spectre of Karl Rove, ".....Karl Rove is gonna get you if you don't behave..". Or better yet, "bad kids end up at the RNC".

Or better yet, a star went nova in Beta Hortensis this week. Hmmmm, must be Roves anti-environmental policies coming home to roost.

Posted by: BubbaDoRadar on March 6, 2005 04:34 PM
5. All good Dem's know that George Bush is an "Idiot" that is being mind-controlled by the Neo-Con "Evil Genius" Karl Rove.

Posted by: Dave on March 6, 2005 04:35 PM
6. It's time that this question was asked. Are you being compensated for your efforts on Sound Politics?

Actually, "zapporo", I think the question is irrelevant. The only question that should matter is whether the information provided here is truthful and credible and whether the commentary is thoughtful, thought-provoking and interesting. The lunatic who writes drivel for free is not more honorable than the sage who is paid handsomely.

But to answer the question, the only compensation that I receive for my efforts on Sound Politics is from User donations and from blog ads. These amounts are fairly modest and it's only compensation in the sense that it goes to cover costs with the rest going into a reserve to be used for expanding and redesigning the website. There are no immediate plans to pay me or any of the other Sound Politics writers for what we're doing here, and even if we were to pay ourselves from the tipjar fund, the remuneration would be quite small at this point.

We're doing this in order to express our personal political opinions in our spare time.

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on March 6, 2005 04:45 PM
7. The left is really good at picking opponents to vilify, and then simply using their names as code-words to attach to other things they want to vilify. They were pretty successful doing this with Newt Gingrich. They tried to do it with W, but darned if he didn't get elected again. So for now it's the eeevil Mr. Rove. For us non-moonbats, this gets pretty boring. Why can't they come up with something more imaginative? How about D. B. Cooper or alien abductors (the interstellar kind)? Maybe D. B. is even holding onto the notorious King County elections binder. Perhaps with the help of aliens.

Posted by: Boonie on March 6, 2005 04:46 PM
8. I think the are not only paranoid, the Democrats are must be BROKE!

Did they get their deposit back yet from Sam Reed? This law suit is going to bust them.

Posted by: chardonnay on March 6, 2005 05:12 PM
9. Stefan:

The lunatic fringe of the Washington State Democratic Party is not confined to their weirdo Duranty-wanna-be bloggers in Seattle and ... Portland

Goldy:

Stefan Sharkansky apparently suffers from paranoid delusions. I know this, because the men I’ve hired to trail him assure me it is true.

Ok. Ok guys. I think we need some sort of mediator here.

Isn't there anyone left who can have a discussion without calling an opposing view "crazy."

What happened to the reasonable folks who aren't trying to burn the other guys house down?

Posted by: Erik on March 6, 2005 06:32 PM
10. Zapporo, I enjoyed your question. I remember when the "Swift Boat" veterans [ALL Viet Nam Vets] were attacked for their work. From where did their money come? They must be "bought and paid for"!! Who would have believed that a few hundred thousand dollars from military vets like me would have made such a difference? I think Sharkman is making a difference as well. So, commie lib cheating Democrats, I will make a modest contibution to the Shark, just to p!ss off the same left wing coomie libs that attacked the "Swifties". In addition, I'm asking any other military vets to join me, no matter how modest. If we stand together, we stand tall. And the libs hate those with integrity ["KKK" Byrd, John "Fonda" Kerry, Bill "Draft Dodger" Clinton, and Teddy "Oldsmobile" Kennedy]. Oh, how they hate us. Well, like General Patton, we are going to drive forward, attack the enemy, not stop, and not pay for the same ground twice. Hopefully, some will lose their "guvment" jobs, and some will go to jail. Best regards to my VRWC friends, JCH, Pahoa, HI

Posted by: JCH on March 6, 2005 06:38 PM
11. Paul Berendt is a very VERY disturbed man! He is the poster child for Zoloft - with his emotional outbursts and tear attacks! Now he's going paranoid and delusional!

He probably see's Dead people....all the time! (voting) ........snicker....

Posted by: Deborah on March 6, 2005 06:54 PM
12. Hey, didn't I actually see, in person, Joe Lockhart, Clinton's former press secretary, here in Seattle around the time Christine stole the election? Any connections? I would venture to say "yes". Let's talk about who REALLY has been involved in this whole scandal.

Posted by: Christine on March 6, 2005 07:01 PM
13. Erik,

I don't call everybody who presents an opposing view crazy. I don't call you crazy, although much of the information that you present as fact is simply untrue. Some of Berendt's reported comments about Karl Rove's reach are so baseless and over-the-top ludicrous as to deserve whatever ridicule people can heap on him.

As to the other bloggers who have no response to irrefutable facts that contradict their fantasy world, except to ignore the facts and hurl playground insults at the people who deliver the facts -- they're clowns and they only waste the time of the people who are interested in a serious discussion of important issues. I'm not going to waste my time engaging with them. Surely there are some sensible people on the other side. Aren't there?

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on March 6, 2005 07:07 PM
14. This is TOO FUNNY! A week ago I posted in jest that any day now the dems will be saying Karl Rove is behind this. Then I ALSO said it's impossible to parody the Left. And now lo and behold here they are saying exactly what I said in jest- only they're serious and it's coming not from some nutcase troll but straight from the mouth of the party.

I say again, you simply CANNOT parody the Left. No matter how loopy and over-the-top you try to be in jest, they will come up with something AT LEAST as nutty. . . and expect to be taken seriously.

One small nit with your conclusion Stefan- EITHER a liar OR schizo? Is there some reason he can't be both? ;)

Posted by: Chuck Miller on March 6, 2005 07:18 PM
15. JCH

I am retired military and I took you up on your challenge. Stefan is probably incurring a few expenses to bring us this site along with his expertise.

If he spends it all on beer and toys for his 3 year old, I'd be happy too!

Posted by: sgmmac on March 6, 2005 08:20 PM
16. ..and of course we know that Karl Rove is behind the fake CBS documents, Sept. 11th attacks, the Democrat vote fraud in Wisconsin, the fact that I went to church this morning and that my Alaskan Malamute smells bad (well, she just needs her quarterly bath, that's all. I'm sure I can get permission from KR to wash her).

Posted by: Michele on March 6, 2005 08:22 PM
17. I see far more left leaning voices willing to engage in sensible debate writing the comments to blogs than I do left wing bloggers or anyone from the mainstream media.

There's a certain myopia inducing hauteur associated with the pontificating left establishment be it professors, politicians, journalists or bloggers. They must have this hauteur to justify themselves because their ideas are so far from reality and so far from the average Joe, even the average left leaning Joe in Seattle.

As least some of the everyday left leaning Joes who comment are willing to debate real ideas and will actually back down or be swayed by facts.

Posted by: Jeff B. on March 6, 2005 08:33 PM
18. Thanks Stefan....After reading the link I got the best laugh I have had in a Week....

That man is parinoid, and do the Democrats (just the normal people type not way left) really believe this crap?

And frankly, who give's a darn who is behind it, as long as the TRUTH is told....

Didnt the Dem's get a bunch of Kerry money to pay for the hand recount? The GOP didn't spin those funds as an conspiracy did they???

Berendt needs help, he is too emotional, and so full of himself, it is sad. I almost feel sorry for him....

Posted by: Chris on March 6, 2005 08:35 PM
19. SGMMAC, Bravo Zulu. Best regards, JCH

Posted by: JCH on March 6, 2005 09:29 PM
20. Two quick additions --

Chris -- Don't make that mistake of feeling sorry for the enemy -- don't fall for that

Second -- hey ya mean the dem's have finally lost all the traction the used to have with their kool-ade drinkers -- with their greatest demon of all time -- Richard Nixon???!!!!!!! -- actually I am old enuff to remember when it was still Hoover -- My grandfather remembered when it was still Lincoln -- heh heh heh -- stuff that up your sheet Byrd

Posted by: Bill on March 6, 2005 09:38 PM
21. Or was that Teddy R. ???

Posted by: Bill on March 6, 2005 09:39 PM
22. JCH,
I accept. Will get something to the SP crew this week.

rangers lead the way!

Posted by: Ranger06 on March 6, 2005 09:53 PM
23. Wasnt Karl Rove the shooter on the grassy knoll? I think he orchestrated pearl harbor to get us into WWII, he most certaily was flying a 9/11 plane by remote control. Wasnt he in asia during the Tsunami? I bet Rove synthisized the AIDS virus back in the 80's to knock off Democrat votes twenty years later. What about Oklahoma city, didnt Rove and McVey go to college together? Or was that Rove and Saddam?

Posted by: Ranger06 on March 6, 2005 09:58 PM
24. Ranger 06......Well done! Like the "Swift Boat" vets before us, we are to be feared, as they fear the light of truth. My respects to you, and to your service. JCH

Posted by: JCH on March 6, 2005 10:15 PM
25. Karl Rove couldn't have had time to orchestrate the recount stuff for the WA state GOP, he was too busy using secret military industrial complex technology to cause the Tsunami, so there would be a relief effort he could get Bill C attatched to so he would be out of the country and unable to help the dems.

Besides, if Karl Rove was involved, we would have won.

Posted by: Kevin on March 6, 2005 10:33 PM
26. Stefan,
I am so ashamed, I really meant to add some funds so you all can afford coffee to stay awake but...
I am disability myself. Anyway, being a Republican and being very involved in the voting process here in the land of only one felon voter, (Skagit County),I must say I have been left off Karl's mailing list. I am in constant contact with the county party and have yet to hear his name mentioned. We meet twice monthly and plot our own strategies. Perhaps this is why Queen Chris is still on her throne. Although I hear from the RNC leaders, there is still no real support for this effort from Washington DC.
I do recall however, John Kerry and his ilk putting up a big chunk of the $730,000.00 needed to steal Dino's title as governor elect. Perhaps Paul Berendt is mistaking his efforts along with the DNC's with ours. Anyway, soon as the old tax return arrives, I'll add to you coffers

Jim

Posted by: Jim L on March 6, 2005 10:54 PM
27. Stefan,

I firmly believe their should be a liberal posting fee associated with your site. Great job you do here! They are getting desparate!

Posted by: GS on March 6, 2005 11:50 PM
28. Wasnt Karl Rove the shooter on the grassy knoll?

Yes.....Yes he was! And.........Karl Rove was the 'smoking guy' on the X-Files!!

But I hear - that right now...Karl's entire attention is focused on making Paul Berendts *appear* crazy!! (cough) Yep! It's a dang right-wing-Rove conspiracy!

(Yo Paul....He's probably watching you right now!!!)
Karl Rove is worse than Santa Clause!!! He is everywhere!!

Posted by: Deborah on March 6, 2005 11:52 PM
29. Attention all Republicans: The next conspiracy planning meeting with Karl Rove will meet tomorrow down at the King County Elections office at 7:00 am sharp! Dean Logan will be there to explain how "Karl Rove made me find unsecured ballots 9 times and actually FORCED me to put unchecked provisonal ballots in the Accuvote Machine!" Don't miss hearing how Karl Rove caused Ron Sims to miss his weekly Home Training lessons several times since the election.
No wonder Sims seems less charming lately.....

Posted by: Michele on March 7, 2005 12:01 AM
30. Two things to remember about the letter: It was a fund raising letter and it came from a party official.

Fund raising letters nearly always work best wehn they scare the recipients -- or so those who send them out have concluded.

And party officials, more than elected officials, are given room to float outrageous charges. I don't like that, but the custom is far too well established for me to change.

Berendt's letter goes farther than many, but it is part of a long tradition. (And it is interesting to see what he thinks will appeal to Democratic donors.)

Posted by: Jim Miller on March 7, 2005 04:51 AM
31. RE: Karl Rove.

I wish! I remember the sadness and discouragement we felt when the Bush campaign packed up and left the state in mid-September, followed by the cuts in funding to Nethercutt's campaign by the Senate campaign committee. I was surprised the GOP did as well in WA as it did, after the way the RNC wrote us off.

I'd like nothing better than for Karl Rove to wake up and decide the GOP has some potential in this state. Paul Behrendt is whistling past the graveyard.

Posted by: Scott on March 7, 2005 07:43 AM
32. Kevin, "Karl Rove couldn't have had time to orchestrate the recount stuff for the WA state GOP, he was too busy using secret military industrial complex technology to cause the Tsunami, so there would be a relief effort he could get Bill C attatched to so he would be out of the country and unable to help the dems."

I hate to quibble, but this particular allegation would be more properly directed toward neo-neo-con HRC.

Posted by: scott158 on March 7, 2005 08:21 AM
33. Typical PU article--not only does it read like a Democratic press release, but it is woefully short on actual facts and the article itself rife with unsubstantiated claims. "Full of errors". How full? Well really, really, full. Here are two examples out of the >1,000 names. See? Really, really full. News accounts (unattributed, of course), are finding many errors. How many? Many, many errors. Good enough?

Dems claim to have proven that all 15 names turned over last week were legal voters. I guess that settles it; if the Democrats rebute the Republicans by simply stating "it isn't true", there is nothing further for the PU reporter Louis Kamb to do. The reliable politicos have spoken and the issue is dead. Sounds like Officer Barbrady in South Park "nothing to see here people, move along".

Who to trust is always an issue. But an article like this one should engender zero trust on anyone's part.

Posted by: iconoclast on March 7, 2005 08:26 AM
34. It's time that this question was asked. Are you being compensated for your efforts on Sound Politics?

Stefan volunteers his time, and he gets nowhere near enough credit for it. Unless he's magic, he only has 24 hours in a day to work with. He has to fit earning a living into that, find time for family, appear in media, and run the website.

Subtracted from that total available time, of course, is time spent answering irrelevant questions.

(if you don't mind my speaking up, Stefan.)

Posted by: South County on March 7, 2005 08:32 AM
35. Erik, Goldy, et.al. As long as the Democrats maintain the attitude of making excuses, victimology and pathological lieing - lunatic fringe is appropriate. Its the Democrat leadership that promotes this kind of crap, dragging the rest of the party into the sewer. There are a number of reputable Democrats that believe in fairness and believe that the 2004 Gubenatorial election was hijacked. In your book, the ends justifies the means and it doesn't matter to you how it is accomplished. That is detrimental to the rest of the people, so the Legislature and Democrat leadership is thumbing its nose at the people.

If you believe elections will be improved by letting felons vote directly out of prison and motor voter registration permitting illegal aliens, then you people are mentally ill - or you should just go ahead call yourself communists - as your goal is to nullify justice because it may not go your way.

Posted by: KS on March 7, 2005 08:41 AM
36. Ah, Spring is in the air, and the fund raising letters are blooming.

I understand where Mr. Berendt is coming from. There are Democrats that send money to support specific candidates, and will send some money into the general party fund regardless of whether we get the letters or not.

Then we have our fringe folk. These people send more money when the "evil Republicans" are out to "pillage the world for big business" and we virtuous Democrats need to defeat the malevolent Rovezilla. Sigh.

I used to get the Republican mailings too, as I sent money to a Republican candidate that I supported. Most of them weren't quite as amusing as my party's mailings, but they pulled the "scare card" out more than once. Somehow, "please send money to help us support our candidates" just doesn't bring in the $$$. Oh, well.

Then again, Republicans do their own version. Some Republicans are even actively claiming the Christine Gregoire personally orchestrated the creation of thousands of fraudulent votes, in order to steal the election. Even the other candidate won't go that far, but some of those extreme right wing fringies see insidious plots with "distributed vote fraud" and call the other party an "opium den of corruption."

Of course, nobody here would say anything like that, would they?

Posted by: John Barelli on March 7, 2005 08:54 AM
37. Of course, there are fringe folk on both sides, but when one party predicted its attitude largely from the fringe folk like the Dems have done, something is clearly wrong and the party needs an infusion of new blood, so that it will stop sending out the same old non-productive partisan message otherwise popular support will drop off.

To date, the Republicans have not gone that route as much as the Democrats, but if one party gets too much control - then they will become corrupted. Is it too much to ask for the overall political climate to improve ? (maybe it is)

Posted by: KS on March 7, 2005 09:10 AM
38. First sentence should read; "Of course, there are fringe folk on both sides, but when one party has predicated its attitude largely from the fringe folk like the Dems have done,..."

Posted by: KS on March 7, 2005 09:12 AM
39. Not karl rove,maybe mark braden..
why would THIS lawyer be HERE.
this lawyer that was so instrumental in the clinton witch hunt. this lawyer that helped with elections in afghanistan. this lawyer that helped force a hand recount in new mexico 2000, yet helped stop one in florida 2000, for opposing reasons. this lawyer that is so artful at tweaking elections. if the case for rossi is so well established,so cut and dried, why would a top election troubleshooter/lawyer in bushs inner circle, be here today.
probably just coincedence. maybe he had a few weeks off, after "adjusting" election outcomes in afghanistan, and Iraq.

Posted by: Dumdum on March 7, 2005 09:14 AM
40. "Attention all Republicans: The next conspiracy planning meeting with Karl Rove will meet tomorrow"

Michelle, is this casual, or should I wear formal aluminum foil hat? (I wouldn't want to miss any of KR special secret signals!)

alaric

P.S. Everyone, don't forget your decoder rings! -a-

Posted by: alaric on March 7, 2005 11:25 AM
41. My theory is Berendt is losing it because he knows those 400+ provisional ballot affadavits he brought in, cried a river over and personally attested to their validity have some serious problem ones in the dungheap.
Berendt is so nervous about how to deflect attention away from his own actions that he is resorting to dragging out Rove, the LEFTY's ideal boogie-man".

Watch Berendt continue to bring up Rove, dirty-tricks blah, blah, blah......anything to DEFLECT ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIS OWN PERSONAL ACTIONS.
Berendt will do anything to not be accountable for his actions. I can't wait for the depositions and trial to start. Berendt has put himself squarely in the center of this by being the Provisional Affadavit Delivery Man.
These Provisional Affadavits are going to become quite an issue...especially those with questionable signatures. Why do you folks think the Dems came out so "offended" by the validation effort on these affadavits????

Posted by: Mr. Cyncial on March 7, 2005 11:49 AM
42. I really got a kick out of that part about Karl Rove and his "mignons".

Suggests to me we stick a fork in him (Berendt)--he's well done (or possibly medium rare?)

Posted by: Howard Hirsch on March 7, 2005 01:52 PM
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