February 25, 2005
Unions 2, Taxpayers 0

Former Attorney General Christine Gregoire signed her first bill yesterday, becoming the first former Attorney General in state history to accidentally get a chance to sign a bill.

And what a bill it was. SB 5097, a pay-off to the goons from Gregoire's base in the public employment unions. It requires 15% of all spending on large public works contracts be set aside for employees enrolled in union apprentice programs.

In another victory for the public employee unions, Gregoire and key Democrats in the state legislature are advocating hundreds of millions of dollars in pay and benefit increases for government workers.

These people must ask themselves "How will we pay for this"? And believe me, we will pay for this.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 25, 2005 11:16 AM | Email This
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1. I see that extortion is alive and well in the Great State of Washington. Talk about special interests. It's a shame for the vast majority of union membership (decent folks). Just watch as more commerce leaves the area.

Posted by: dkpcowboy on February 25, 2005 11:25 AM
2. She talks the talk of no new taxes. My property tax bill was $400 more than last year. Yup keep talking the talk. But we're watching her walk the walk!

Posted by: GS on February 25, 2005 11:36 AM
3. Yep. No surprises here.

"GREGOIRE, THE GRAY DAVIS OF WASHINGTON. SPECIAL INTERESTS ARE HER INTERESTS."

Posted by: Michele on February 25, 2005 11:48 AM
4. In another victory for the public employee unions, Gregoire and key Democrats in the state legislature are advocating

Terrible isn't it to suggest a group should advocate that workers make more than minimum wage?

Posted by: Erik on February 25, 2005 11:48 AM
5. And who is suprised? So, we have a 2 billion dollar deficit, but let's start handing out pay raises. Typical government workers. Any normal company, people would be getting fired if they were that badly in the red.

Posted by: Jim in Clark County on February 25, 2005 11:51 AM
6. What!
This is along with the mandatory 1% for art?
How much would this 15% translate into - say for that new sewer plant in Snohomish county?
Does this mean that we will be paying for schooling for people to learn to lean on shovels better?

Posted by: Brian on February 25, 2005 11:54 AM
7. Erik, terrible isn't it to suggest that workers actually get paid for work done right, on time, on budget, etc. Hey, here's a thought: competition! Or is actually having to "build a better mousetrap" a foreign concept to union or government workers?

Posted by: dkpcowboy on February 25, 2005 11:59 AM
8. Many State employees are paid well below salaries in private industry. This is partly a result of periodic salary freezes over the last 15 years.

One of the reasons that this budget will be so hard to balance is that many State employee salaries are to be adjusted to within 25% of private sector amounts. That measn that evan after up to a 10% raise, their salaries will remain $10K to $15K below market value.

Imagine now what that means in terms of retention and training costs. The State will hire kids out of college and then train then for the next two to five years at great cost to the taxpayer. At this point the employee is well enough trained and has the practical experience to qualify for much higher salaries in the private sector. Where would you go?

The bigger problem is not salaries, but the number of State employees. The business of government could be easily accomplished with 10 or 15% less emplyees. Management is particularly bloated with some programs having a ratio approaching 1:1.

So lets not pick on all State employees. Many, its true, vote for the hand that feeds them, but that is not in itself reason to pick on them. Remember they will still be here when Rossi is governor.

Posted by: DeadWood on February 25, 2005 12:09 PM
9. And what a bill it was. SB 5097, a pay-off to the goons from Gregoire's base in the public employment unions. It requires 15% of all spending on large public works contracts be set aside for employees enrolled in union apprentice programs.

Please explain how this is a bad thing.

becoming the first former Attorney General in state history to accidentally get a chance to sign a bill.

Stefan - cut the spin. She is our Governor for now. Deal with it. If the courts overturn the election, and call for a re-vote, then until she loses that she will still be our Governor.

Posted by: Daniel K on February 25, 2005 12:09 PM
10. Erik,

I missed your obtuseness for some time.

People should earn more than the minimum wage because they deserve it, because they worked for it and they would receive it on the open market. That's called 'capitalism'. Look it up in the dictionary or encyclopedia - and prepare to be amazed!

Taxpayers should not pay for such things. Wages should be determined by the market. That is why minimum wage is, and has always been known to be, such a bad idea. Even FDRs economists said as much.

And as for unions - I've never known a company that treated its employees well that needed a union. Except for police officers and fire houses, unions are worthless. They eventually drive a stake into the heart of the business, as they are doing for the airlines. But good business is never a part of a liberal, or Erik's, great society.

Posted by: Larry on February 25, 2005 12:12 PM
11. Daniel - she is not my governor and it is precisely because she is not our governor that she will be thrown out. Cut the spin of saying she is out governor.

Posted by: colin on February 25, 2005 01:24 PM
12. Terrible isn't it to suggest a group should advocate that workers make more than minimum wage?

So, Erik...how many of those employees are currently making minimum wage?

Posted by: South County on February 25, 2005 01:28 PM
13. ok for example, according to lbloom.net. Mike Gregoire worked for the AGO as an investigator making $4482/mo or $ 53,784/yr add a 15% increase of approximately $8055 he is making $61,839.00/year. Is he rich now in the eyes of liberals?

Posted by: chardonnay on February 25, 2005 02:01 PM
14. Sheesh, accidentally gets to sign? But I thought she was governor because of tons of fraud and shannanigans..., nothing accidental about that.

But, of course, you have no proof of that. So, let us all say it together so we can get use to it "Christine Gregoire is the Governor of the State of Washington." Heck, if it makes you feel better, I'll say that George Bush is the President of the United States. This doesn't mean that this might not change (although, lets face it, the chances of that happening are going down steadily, heck, the Great and Powerful Shark only gave it 50% yesterday), but right now, she is the legal Governor of this state.

And while we are on the subject of special interest, how beholden is Rossi to the Building Industry who have nicely been paying for all the research into supposed illegal votes? I'm expecting a cutting discussion of that to be set up. After all, if all your dreams come true and Rossi becomes Governor, the people who paid for that are going to want their pound of flesh, and I'm not talking Jeff Gannon territory here.

Posted by: JDB on February 25, 2005 02:23 PM
15. Deadwood, I wonder what the numbers are for people leaving state jobs for the private sector. I traditionally thought once they were in they were IN. Let's not forget that the people in the private sector are paying their salaries. Should the servant make more than the master. I don't have the numbers but I am guessing that those working for the state make more than those who are supporting them. Benefits included.

Posted by: jeff on February 25, 2005 02:28 PM
16. Read Linda Chavez's book, "Betrayal" about the unions. It is all about political clout and power where in the beginning it started out being about improving workers conditions.
The airlines are one example, they insist on contracts being enforced even if the airline is battling to not declare bankruptcy. Even if the company goes out of business & people are out of work, they won't budge.
The motivation to drive up the costs to business is to have more dues to confiscate for political campaigns. The amount they donate to Democrats is staggering. Not suprised she's paying them back first chance she gets.
Fraudoire..NOT my governor.
Revote!

Posted by: Cara B. on February 25, 2005 03:30 PM
17. Read Linda Chavez's book, "Betrayal" about the unions. It is all about political clout and power where in the beginning it started out being about improving workers conditions.
The airlines are one example, they insist on contracts being enforced even if the airline is battling to not declare bankruptcy. Even if the company goes out of business & people are out of work, they won't budge.
The motivation to drive up the costs to business is to have more dues to confiscate for political campaigns. The amount they donate to Democrats is staggering. Not suprised she's paying them back first chance she gets.
Fraudoire..NOT my governor.
Revote!

Posted by: Cara B. on February 25, 2005 03:30 PM
18. Jeff:

I can only tell you what I have seen for myself. I work for the State in a professional capacity. In my office I have seen our junior professional staff come and go pretty regularly on about a two year rotation. In four years I have seen about a 40% turnover.

We take them fresh out of college and train them, and then they go out and get jobs in the private sector or with other governments (Federal, etc) where salaries are not depressed.

In 2002, the Dept. of Personnel did a salary survey that included my profession and found that State salaries for my profession, including benefits, were 35% lower than in the private sector.

I repeat my earlier assertion. Its not the pay that's a budget problem - its over staffing and over managing.

Posted by: DeadWood on February 25, 2005 05:15 PM
19. Mike Gregoire worked for Christine Gregoire when she was the AG??????????

What's wrong with that picture?

Posted by: sgmmac on February 25, 2005 06:42 PM
20. Agreed, sgmmac! N-E-P-O-T-I-S-M !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Michele on February 26, 2005 02:48 AM
21. This kinda makes the (one time) price of a RE-VOTE seem so small . . .

Just keep a list of all the co-conspiritors, so Rossi will be able to 'clean house' of all the 'clinging vines' that Gregoire has 'planted'.

What's funny, is that her 'hindness' can't do anything without 'exsposure'. She is 'obligated' to fill her end of the 'bargain', reguardless who knows or is watching.

This will end her public life.

Stay tuned . . . more late night one liner fadder to come!

Posted by: Arky on February 26, 2005 04:18 AM
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