February 24, 2005
Ron Sims is Toast

The Stranger reports that King County Executive Ron Sims could easily be tossed out of office if the right challenger steps up to the plate:

One possible Democratic challenger is former state legislator and ex-supreme court justice Phil Talmadge, who acknowledges he is contemplating a run. He adds that polling done on his behalf shows Sims is vulnerable, with only 40 percent of county residents currently saying Sims should be reelected.
It shouldn't be all that hard to find a stronger candidate than Ron Sims. At a minimum, all they would need is the ability to calculate percentages and to have "good home training".

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 24, 2005 02:55 PM | Email This
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1. Stefan:

"It shouldn't be all that hard to find a stronger candidate "

The eating of one's young is a favorite pastime in the lower regions.

Posted by: Ken Muller on February 24, 2005 03:03 PM
2. Thank GOD! stick a fork in him he's burnt and charred but continues to try to rebound.

Posted by: Adriel on February 24, 2005 03:09 PM
3. Keep the heat on ! The Seattle Socialists will forget quickly. Another good candidate would be David Irons, if he decides to go for it. Talmedge would be a definite improvement, but it would sure be nice to have Ukraine County divided and create Cascade County...

Posted by: KS on February 24, 2005 03:15 PM
4. I asked David Irons, I mean I begged him. I offered to help 24/7 on his campaign as I promised Ron Sims(and my 2 reps in Oly) I would. But Mr. Irons said he has not decided. Can everyone else maybe influence him. Now I am begging you. LOL Kicking King Ron out of office will be a mega major accomplishment, well he is ripe right now lets say, we cannot let this one go, this is way to easy.

Posted by: chardonnay on February 24, 2005 03:33 PM
5. David Irons is a good guy. He'd have my support.

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on February 24, 2005 03:39 PM
6. Well there is still reason to fear, he will not go away even if he loses that seat. Which by the way I can't imagine as long as Dean Logan is at the helm of the King county elections department. They would be finding new Sims votes well into the summoer of 2006 I suspect.

And to boot, CG in a pre election time article on the prospects of Ron Sims losing his current seat praised his service and made a comment that she would find him a spot in her government.

Those land stealing tax happy thugs are at the core of the democratic stronghold in King County. They have redefined what representation means and are now wanting to get rid of the initiatative process so people have no say to what they do. They don't go down just because the public throws them out. They are like cats with nine lives.

Posted by: GS on February 24, 2005 03:42 PM
7. Ah yes, Representative Democracy! What a wonderful time for it to reassert itself and give Democrats a lesson in its true meaning. Corruption, once its cover is blown, is capable of being self-correcting. That was before the MSM ceased acting as a watchdog of politics and became partners with the leadership of the status quo, protecting whoever is in power. But with the advent of the blogosphere and the current election mess there new reason for optimism. S'long, Mr. Sims!

Posted by: RLG on February 24, 2005 03:54 PM
8. Oh, GS, you are right on with that one. CG will appoint him as chief fireplace monitor under 1st man Mike. Just kidding, CG has a legacy of perfect little appointments from DOE days until Jan right before she left the AGO. Did you catch her words as she appointed the guy in charge of the DOE? "We're Back" does that creep you out as much as it did the employees that thought they were rid of her?

Posted by: chardonnay on February 24, 2005 03:58 PM
9. I think there is some chance David Irons would run. Council districts have been totally screwed up, if he ran in the "new" district it would be against an incumbent.

I would volunteer for him.

Posted by: South County on February 24, 2005 04:07 PM
10. Sims is polling at 40% for reelection right now...with how many months until he's up for reelection?

Heck...that's hardly worse than Bush polled (44%) in December 2003.

Carla@preemptivekarma

Posted by: carla on February 24, 2005 04:58 PM
11. I'm sure Ron Sims will find a way to get himself reelected. Heck, he'll probably find a few extra uncounted Gregoire votes in the process...

Posted by: Vexorg on February 24, 2005 05:09 PM
12. December 14/15 2003 poll according to CBS News:

Bush 44%
Democrat 40%

If Simms has 40% I'd say we have good reason to call him toast.
Thanks Carla!

Posted by: colin on February 24, 2005 05:25 PM
13. Simms is still the darling of the hardcore left. With Seattle still dominating the King County Democratic apparatus I think it would be difficult, but not impossible, to unseat him from his candidacy.

If Simms weathers the internal storms he will then face a real ****storm in November. I wonder though if the Republicans can field a moderate enough candidate to defeat him.

Independents like me are watching and waiting.

Posted by: DeadWood on February 24, 2005 05:29 PM
14. Sims...maybe there is a place in the un for him.
Cindy

Posted by: cindy on February 24, 2005 06:00 PM
15. I learned a very valuable lesson playing High School sports growing up, and that was never underestimate your opponent!

It is important to keep up a full court press on Mr. Home Training in hopes of handing him a defeat in the election.

Do not let your friends, family, and neighbors forget what Sims represents and how detrimental he is to the present and future of King County.
He has been at the helm for some of the biggest Hall of Shame screw ups/abuses in county history.

On top of that, with the way our election system is currently set up you can go ahead and spot Sims 4,000 "mistakes" and "human error" votes before anyone even goes to the polls.

With that said I think David Irons would be a huge improvement! I think whoever runs has to have the opposite approach to government. The size, scope and spending attitudes need to be changed.

Posted by: Joe on February 24, 2005 06:02 PM
16. Though Ron Sims is definitely in a class of his own..(Criminal, communist - NOT protected class....)simply recycling Democrats into open positions in King County will not solve the problem.

There is a large and growing movement in this state to secede from King County! Some are even talking about seceding from the state and creating a new state! It's pretty obvious Sims is toast!
After watching the other prominent state Democrats actions during this election contest,....I cannot think of a single available Democrat (that I could stomach) to fill Sims position as KC Exec!

Posted by: Deborah on February 24, 2005 06:43 PM
17. I've been here in the Sound area for about a year, and meet about 60 new people each month through my work. My own observation is that the vast majority (90%) of people I meet are embarrassed by the current political status of the state (specifically CG, RS, and DL).

What I rarely, if ever, learn is the specific political loyalty of the individual. If my experience is any indicator, I'd say that many folks in power are toast.

Posted by: dkpcowboy on February 24, 2005 06:57 PM
18. yeah, I know for me anymore it's picking the lesser of two evils. I think this election has proven that Sims is the greater of any number of evils though

Posted by: Eric on February 24, 2005 07:50 PM
19. Colin:

That was a nationwide poll. We're talking about Washington State...where the GOP isn't exactly swimming in support. :)


carla@preemptivekarmadotcom

Posted by: carla on February 24, 2005 08:04 PM
20. Don't forget what happened to Seattle officials after the Mardi Gras fiasco. the Mayor and the police chief were both ousted, right on to the sidewalk. People do not forget, we just need to aid that along until NOV.

Thats the easy part with Sims, play the tape johnny.....Excuse me, excuse me, gentlemen, I expect some good home training.
Who ever the candidate message is everything. It helped Dino against miss big name.

Posted by: chardonnay on February 24, 2005 08:17 PM
21. Deborah - Right on. I can't think of anyone as bad as Ron Sims - with the possible exception of extremely LIBERAL Phil Talmadge. God help us. Please tell me more about David Irons, I'm not familiar with him. Thanks

Posted by: CP on February 24, 2005 08:28 PM
22. Carla - I love how what you say proves my point - Washington isn't swimming in support of GOP - yet the Dems can only muster 40% approval for their incumbent in very liberal King County - how well do you think Ron would be doing if King County's voters reflected the nation's voters- like those polled by CBS? Thanks again Carla!

Posted by: Colin on February 24, 2005 08:44 PM
23. The hardcore Demos that comment here are mainly looking for reactions and/or wandering over here to see what is up after feeding from the HorsesAss.

Point being that they are not at all representative of the average Democrat in King County.

Average Dems have heard Sims remarks. They've heard the gaffs, the monorail endorsments, etc. They know that Sims lost his bid for the governor which may end up costing Gregoire the governorship, and always counts against future elections bids. And they know that Sims is at the helm of the KC Elections Titanic. Everyone in KC will have stored all of this very high profile bad publicity information away for the next election.

I agree with Stefan, Sims is toast. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 24, 2005 09:04 PM
24. I hate to admit it, but I hardly recognize Ron Sims on TV anymore, the stress seems to be taking it's toll on the man. I have to look twice to see that it is actually him. It might be to his benefit to just step down and avoid all of the stress although that will not happen.

Also I agree with many of you that believe it is time to split off a District of Seattle soon. To that end there is a meeting this Saturday out in the unincorporated King County area of Maple Valley (where Sims and the democrats stole 50% - 65% of everyones property, for all those interested. People have had it with this absolute stealing of their land rights and are taking actions to deal with it. To that end it should be a lively and fun get together. This is a meeting for anyone interested in participating on the Cedar county succession movement. It will take place at the Maple Valley Library at 2:00 pm Saturday, Feb 26.

See you there!

Posted by: GS on February 24, 2005 09:17 PM
25. Kinda like David Spade on the SNL flight attendant skit:

"Buh Bye, Sims!"

Posted by: Shaun on February 24, 2005 09:21 PM
26. That's what I've been hoping for...an honest democrat or republican to replace him. ..believing for a good outcome this November!

Posted by: Michele on February 24, 2005 10:01 PM
27. I sense a hefty backlash coming on with the CAO (communistic area ordinance) and the strong evidence of corruption with King County Elections Division, not to forget having Sound Transit Light Rail jammed down the throats of Seattle by King Sims - get a decent candidate to oppose him and Sims is toast !

Posted by: KS on February 24, 2005 10:16 PM
28. Sims needs to go. Talmadge would be a good choice.

Posted by: flexnfx on February 24, 2005 10:25 PM
29. to have "good home training".


I'd like to see him use this Home Training insult in the hood! He would quickly learn all about *Homeys* and *Homeboys*!

"Good Home training" almost sounds incestuous! ACK!

Posted by: Deborah on February 25, 2005 12:55 AM
30. Link was not shoved down the throats of Seattle. 70% of Seattle Voters, the only votes that counted, not the people of Clarkston or Newport, rejected I-776. I believe it was more people than voted for the project in the first place.

It may be a showdown between Sims and Talmadge, under Top Two, as the GOP will once again hand-pick a candidate to run, and tell others to stay out of the primary. Haven't they learned that is not the way to go, the past couple years. In 2000 for Governor, Carlson only had a competition between a retiring State Senator from Moses Lake. I do not call that competition. Contreras did not have much competition in 2001, and Nethercutt was not even close for Senate this year! Carol Cassady was trounced worse than she was in 2002 for the 7th Congressional District.(The Rigged Partisan Primary allowed for the elimination of the Libertarian Party in that race. Votes that would have gone to the Libertarian, went to McDermott)

I would like to see King County, being a charter county, challenge state law, and abolish the primary for all city and county races, and adopt Instant Runoff Voting. Problem is, as Vancouver learned, Charter Cities and Counties still have to hold a party. I would like to seen Grays Harbor County, where an ardent proponent(non-politician) of IRV hails from, be first, but they are not a charter county.

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on February 25, 2005 12:58 AM
31. Masstransitfan, just out of curiosity---what do you drive? And do you drive it to work?

Posted by: Michele on February 25, 2005 02:35 AM
32. Don't forget that a few years ago, Ron Sims tried to pass a tax increase and we voted it down. That threw him into a public hissy-fit when he announced he would close parks and public pools because of Ronnie’s budget shortfall (excess spending). We talked about the Cities buying the parks from the county since they "choose" not to care for them.
So, Ron Sims will punish all you king county residents if he doesn't get good home training from you, i.e. your money!!!

Posted by: chardonnay on February 25, 2005 08:37 AM
33. Michele:

Hopefully more than might be indicated in the local news story (TNT) this past week.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/story/4623525p-4294032c.html

"Tacoman Art Wang, who served in the House with Fisher and is now the state’s chief administrative law judge, recalled [Ruth] Fisher’s sly sense of humor. “Ride the damn bus” declared a bumper sticker on Fisher’s car. “The irony is, I don’t think I ever saw her ride one,” Wang said.

Posted by: FlyingTigress on February 25, 2005 08:59 AM
34. Hey Masstransitfan, Give it up already with the instant runoff voting - It's 2005 already - Gore is over.

Posted by: O2BTNOFF on February 25, 2005 10:09 AM
35. When I work with my Temp Agency I take the bus, or a cab to the agency.

When I drive my dad to his dialysis appointments, I use his vehicle, a Chrysler Town and Country converted for Wheelchair use. He used to be able to transfer very easily, did not need a roll aboard, but now he does.

As for IRV, we still need it, it is not just the 2000 election, the election we just had proved we need it today. It worked in San Francisco, as most of the City Supervisor(council) races up for election, had a first round where the winner did not have a total majority. Under California Law previously, a Runoff within 30 days would have been required for a local election. By using IRV, those races were settled by re-distributing votes among the voters next preferences. This saved millions of dollars, encouraged a high turnout, as the December Runoffs traditionally have less turnout, and candidates did not have to raise more money to win in a runoff. Imagine if we could fold the Primary into the General Election, at least $6 million dollars saved statewide.

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on February 25, 2005 02:36 PM
36. A City-County is possible, under the State Constitution. My idea of splitting the county into three, but sharing a few services, would put the Urban areas west of the Lake and North of Tukwilla that vote Democrat into the City and County of Seattle, but also include Mercer Island, as I would like to see a few Republicans get elected in Seattle, and we need some. The City Council, would be non-partisan.

Also in May, their are two reasons why as an American Citizen and Washington State Resident, I will be watching the BC Provincial Election closely, they are one step away from making the disaster of 2001 in their provincial election right. First all 79 Districts will be up for re-election(Perhaps the NDP could makes some gains if people have a problem with Campbell's Liberals, as well as Campbell the Drunk running the Province. He got caught with a DUI in Hawaii while on Vacation), and their is also a refferendum to go to Single-Transferable Vote, which is basically IRV in a multi-seat district. This, if passed, will ensure that no party that wins only 57.5% of the vote will win 97% of the seats. If adopted, it will not be used until the next provincial election, scheduled for May 2009.

Other reforms in our Election Process came from other countries. Secret Ballots from Australia, and Initiative and Refferenda came from Switzerland.

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on February 25, 2005 03:16 PM
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