February 15, 2005
Democrats and Distributed Vote Fraud

A Washington Democratic elected official sent this in a private email explaining his reasons for opposing a revote and letting Gregoire keep her job.

No election is 100% clean and fair. Mistakes are made, more often human mistakes and not some sort of conspiracy to manipulate an election the way Lyndon Johnson was first elected to the U.S. Senate. I know of two people who voted in this last election who are convicted felons, one of whom lives down the street and I know has served time for drug offensives and burglary. I know he voted because [my wife] and I are election judges. But his name was in the book and I don't know the exact rules which apply to determine if and when a convicted felon is entitled to vote.
He goes on to say that
Who really won last November? I don't think we'll ever know. I won't defend Gregoire, but I won't support Rossi either. I've lost respect for them both and for bloggers, hacks and talk show hosts who have been in a feeding frenzy for months.
I'm sorry the gentleman lost respect for bloggers who are exposing election irregularities, but after reading his email, I also lost respect for election judges, not to mention for Democrat elected officials.

UPDATE To clarify some of the questions that arose in the comments, the person quoted above is not a court judge, but served as an election judge, a temporary pollworker whose duties are spelled out in RCW 29A.44.510:

Oath of judges, form.

The following shall be the oath or affirmation of each judge:

"We, A B, do swear (or affirm) that we will as judges duly attend the ensuing election, during the continuance thereof, and faithfully assist the inspector in carrying on the same; that we will not give our consent to the receipt of any vote or ballot from any person, other than one whom we firmly believe to be entitled to vote at such election; and that we will make a true and perfect return of the said election and will in all things truly, impartially, and faithfully perform our duty respecting the same to the best of our judgment and abilities; and that we are not directly nor indirectly interested in any bet or wager on the result of this election."

Emphasis added. I infer from his email that he did not, in fact, "firmly believe" that the felon whom he saw voting was entitled to vote. I'm not going to betray any confidences by revealing the name of this election judge, but I am disappointed in his apparently lax attitude towards his responsibilities.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 15, 2005 11:56 AM | Email This
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1. These guys are supposed to care about the law!

Posted by: Greg M on February 15, 2005 11:59 AM
2. Stefan:

Just Democrat elected officals???...what about the Republican ones who refuse to uphold the constitution of WA?? The ones who certify elections that aren't reconciled and the ones who also refuse to follow through on illegal residents who vote here, etc.? And btw, what's happening on your Dr. in Atlanta?

Posted by: Susu on February 15, 2005 12:06 PM
3. They believe in the concept of the living, breathing consitution that can folded spindled and mutilated to fit the situation. GIGO. Enough said.

Posted by: KS on February 15, 2005 12:07 PM
4. I too am sorry he has lost respect for the bloggers and radio talk shows , but if this were to happen lets say ten years ago before the bloggers and talk shows would any of this been brought to light or would it would have been ignored by the press

Posted by: rightwingbob on February 15, 2005 12:11 PM
5. This is really pathetic. Sounds like this individual was quite content hiding in the shadows of the MSM, but is wilting in the harsh spotlight shone by the new media.

And he pretends to represent the people of Washington State? [shaking head in utter disbelief...]

Posted by: NW Mike on February 15, 2005 12:11 PM
6. Stephan,
If they really are both judges then you need to turn them in for making that statement.

When they took office, they took an oath to uphold the laws of Washington State.

Posted by: jaybo on February 15, 2005 12:13 PM
7. I don't know who won here either! Get it King County. But I do deserve to know as absolutely soon as this court case goes through! And we will get to the bottom of this. We live in a fragile Democracy, which does mean we need a revote. Rossi knows it. Gregoire does not. She will! If in a year or in three years after this King County election system is swept out the door!

Posted by: GS on February 15, 2005 12:13 PM
8. Just a guess but this is probably an elected democrat PCO. Which is barely an elected position.

Why no name? How did you get this email?

Posted by: Joe on February 15, 2005 12:21 PM
9. It is amazing to me that you just now lost respect for Democrat elected officials...

Posted by: Scott on February 15, 2005 12:21 PM
10. I believe he is a PCO, but he also holds an elected local office somewhere in the state.

It's not that I lost respect for Democrat elected officials for the first time, but that I lost a little more this time. I'm not sure how much more respect for them I have left, but it's monotonically decreasing.

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on February 15, 2005 12:24 PM
11. What a Shame !!!! Just think he has power over peoples life on a daily basis too....

What next? Keep Digging Stefan... The Blogger's of this big ole world are getting smarter everyday!!!!

Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Chris on February 15, 2005 12:42 PM
12. Gee! Lets add these names to the already large illegal voters list.
Oh and while were at it why don't we have these election officials explain their theory to Judge Bridges.
Call the third witness!

Posted by: Keith on February 15, 2005 12:52 PM
13. He screws up and doesn't know how to do his job, bloggers call him on it, and he's the one losing respect for bloggers for being called on it? He should be wearing a white coat as a guest of the state.

Here's a novel idea. Make election officials take a test on their duties. And create a paper trail, so that they know they'll be held accountable.

Jeeze, they even make grunts out on the loading dock keep track of tenths of a hour. How tough can it be?

Posted by: scott158 on February 15, 2005 12:55 PM
14. It works both ways, I believe...bloggers and commonpeople have lost respect for these and other Democrat elected officials, once the word gets out about what they are about.

Posted by: KS on February 15, 2005 01:00 PM
15. Well Mr. Democrat emailer, MY respect for Bloggers just keeps going UP!!

(while my respect for newspapers and TV news has slipped a bit....)

Posted by: Michele S on February 15, 2005 01:06 PM
16. Hmm, a judge who seems to think that the worst crime that has taken place in all this mess is the tidal wave the bloggers have created. Interesting.

One question. WHY is this person a judge?
No, 2 questions. HOW do we get him and his wife off the bench?

Posted by: Hanna on February 15, 2005 01:26 PM
17. This "judge" is an example of an establishment that grew up around limited media options, all of whom were in bed with so-called elected officials.

I think they are all completely confused. They are probably thinking to themselves, "They never complained when we did this before."

The reason we never complained was because there was no medium through which we could connect. Now, I know who my fellow citizens concerned about democracy and freedom truly are, I know where to go to talk to them, and I know which media, officials, and organizations should get my financial contributions. Moreover, I can even do my tiny part to balance the equation with my own little blog.

THAT is exactly what has people like Julia Patterson and Dwight Pelz shaking in their girdles.

(After watching Mr. Pelz yesterday, NOBODY can tell me he doesn't wear a girdle).

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on February 15, 2005 01:48 PM
18. I just finished having a long conversation with a County Auditor and one of her staff about this very issue.

This election official had a responsibility to contest this vote at the polls!!!!!!!
There is even a damn pre-printing form for them to use called something like Challenging a Voter at the Polls..only certain people are allowed to challenge. This moron did not protect the rest of us from being disenfranchised by an illegal voter!! This official should have challenged and forced this voter to vote a provisional ballot so the ballot was held until the validity was verified!!! OUTRAGEOUS!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 15, 2005 02:03 PM
19. So essentially this election judge allowed something to occur that was the basis for the need for election judges in the first place?

So if not challenging illegal voters, what was this election judge doing?

Is this just some sort of honorary position now, meant to stroke the egos of those serving, while not really expecting that they "serve" any purpose at all?

Posted by: Jason on February 15, 2005 02:33 PM
20. Stefan Sharkansky wrote:

(Quoting from an election judge)

"I know of two people who voted in this last election who are convicted felons, one of whom lives down the street and I know has served time for drug offensives and burglary. I know he voted because [my wife] and I are election judges."

(and his comments)

"I infer from his email that he did not, in fact, "firmly believe" that the felon whom he saw voting was entitled to vote. I'm not going to betray any confidences by revealing the name of this election judge, but I am disappointed in his apparently lax attitude towards his responsibilities."

I'm concerned that we have election judges that do not know the rules for having voting rights restored. It's pretty simple. Do your time, pay your fines and costs, send in a form.

Now, if the person is currently on parole or has not finished paying fines, costs and court-ordered restitution, they can't vote.

Unless the election judge has reason to believe that the voter falls into one of the categories above, they should not challenge the voter. If they do have such reason, (not necessarily certain knowledge) then they should certainly know rules apply.

It seems that even after realizing that there might have been a problem, this judge chose not to even find out what rules apply for restoring voting eligibility. Instead, he chose to simply send out an e-mail (who was this e-mail to, anyway?) stating a political position.

I too, am disappointed in this election judge's apparently lax attitude.

Posted by: John Barelli on February 15, 2005 04:56 PM
21. As someone who worked to schedule the training courses for election judges I know that challenging someone's vote at the polling place is not taught to election workers. It's not part of the "curriculum" or in any of the handouts that were given to them for during training for the 2004 election.

I am not saying that this excuses the judges, but not only did King County Records and Elections not arm the election workers with information on how this procedure is to take place. But they also refuse to take responsibilty in safeguarding the registration rolls from those who are dead, felons, or non citizens. Kind of a double whammy of neglect!

Posted by: Joe on February 16, 2005 12:10 AM
22. Isn't this situation exactly what provisional ballots are for?

Posted by: Nick on February 16, 2005 12:36 AM
23. It doesn't matter whether a judge or an elected official is Republican or Democrat---they all need their feet to be held to the fire when they do not obey the law. Ignorance of the law is no excuse----they are being paid to be a "Public Servant", not an elitist. These constant denials of any wrongdoing, and the coverups, and the withholding of evidence only makes the public more angry----can't they see that?

The votes are all tallied in Iraq, and guess what? Christine Gangrene got 129 votes!!

Question: What do you call a lawyer who has an I.Q. of 50??

Answer: "Your Honor".

Posted by: Archangel on February 16, 2005 01:51 PM
24. I don't see why this guy should have challenged those voters. Convicted felons can regain their right to vote. It doesn't seem right for an election judge to demand extra evidence from people who they happen to know are felons, without any evidence that the person is lying when they say they have the right to vote.

I do agree that we need a better system to prevent ineligible people from voting, but this isn't it.

Posted by: Bruce on February 16, 2005 02:15 PM
25. Bruce, they "can" regain their right to vote, but as long as that is unknown to the judge, he could not possibly "firmly believe [the voter] to be entitled to vote"

As far as I can tell, the appropriate action would be to challenge the voter and have him vote a provisional ballot. Then the canvassing board determines whether he was actually eligible to vote. If so, his vote gets counted, if not, the illegal ballot never should get counted. That's why we have provisional ballots in the first place.

Posted by: Nick on February 16, 2005 04:47 PM
26. Looks like an 'election judge' committed perjury, and should be tried in a court of law.

Posted by: Difranco on February 18, 2005 10:01 AM
27. Nick wrote:

Bruce, they "can" regain their right to vote, but as long as that is unknown to the judge, he could not possibly "firmly believe [the voter] to be entitled to vote"

Hold on, there. We've got an "innocent until proven guilty" assumption in this country.

If the judge had any reason to believe that the person had not had their voting rights restored, it would be a different matter.

Now, should the state build a database of felons that have not had voting rights restored? Sure. Should that database be compared to the voter registration database? No problem. Should an individual election judge challenge a registered voter's right to vote without any evidence of illegality? No.

Posted by: John Barelli on February 18, 2005 01:54 PM
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