February 15, 2005
Worse Election Than We Thought?

This letter to the Seattle Times, written, I would guess, by a Democrat, makes an unusual claim:

In November, Washingtonians voted 53 percent for John Kerry vs. 49 percent for George Bush.

(For what it's worth, some of the other election statistics given in the letter are slightly off, too.)

One way to explain those numbers is to assume that 2 percent of Washington's voters voted for both Bush and Kerry.  Can we solve some of other the puzzles in the election returns with that assumption?   I don't see how offhand, but I must admit that I have never done that kind of analysis.

(Want to see the actual results for Washington?  Here's the appropriate link to Dave Leip's site.)

Posted by Jim Miller at February 15, 2005 05:44 AM | Email This
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1. Dont blame the democrats they are talking to each other and making up urban legends. Tell a lie enough it becomes truth. Therefore they can claim it is the Republicans are stealing an Election. Democrats know they are the only honest people in the state and deserve to tell everyone what to do. No guns. More taxes(Need to pay for more social engineering). No smoking. No rights to own land. Only they have the right to tell everyone what they can and can not do.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on February 15, 2005 06:48 AM
2. Well, shoot, with all those extra ballots floating around, why couldn't we have had 102% turnout?

Posted by: Bill on February 15, 2005 07:27 AM
3. The votes in Iraq have just finished being recounted and they found 100 more votes for Gregoire!

Cheers from Whidbey Island

Posted by: Jim Goodall on February 15, 2005 08:13 AM
4. I had a good laugh once I added the percentages, but I was already reading the second paragraph before I understood "the new math."

Maybe the Democrats could put a different spin on this: "Better Election Than We Thought!"

Posted by: JG on February 15, 2005 08:17 AM
5. I read the letter; Witness the birth of the new Demoncratic conspiracy myth, that "Bushitler" is punishing the states and regions that voted for Kerry. In this case, the proposal is to raise electricity rates in retaliation for not voting for GW.

Back east, the rabid mad libs are claiming the same thing with proposed Amtrak cuts.

Glad to see liberals haven't found their minds yet.

Posted by: Shaun on February 15, 2005 08:18 AM
6. The actual figure is 52.8211% for Kerry and Edward and 45.6403% for Bush/Cheney. The remainder was spread across all of the minors.

Posted by: Dan on February 15, 2005 08:25 AM
7. This cheap hydropower and the drooling of the other states over how they want to create money by making us pay more is a debate since before I went to college in the 60s and 70s.

Before, we had Jackson and Magnusson to make it a futile exercise by the power people. And Gorton didn't do too bad either, except it was a little more nip and tuck.

So, now who do we rely on- McDermott? Murray? or Cantwell? I thought after the last effort we should have just outright just bought the dams and stop the argument.

I don't know why we didn't but we are still paying for it. But the key here is, we are still buying the dams.

This isn't a payback for Washington electing the lousers we have, though I kind of think so. But it seems to me to be more of an attempt to regulate the power business. And who do we have to speak up? Dunn? No, she is gone. Gorton? No, we booted him unfairly. We just don't have clout.

And the funny thing is, if the Federal government turns Democrat, we still wouldn't have clout with the lousers we have.

Posted by: swatter on February 15, 2005 08:56 AM
8. I guess this is the reason for the Thomas B. Fordham Foundation having found that Washington gets an F for "The State of State Math Standards."

Posted by: Jonathan on February 15, 2005 10:09 AM
9. Hal's a regular celebrity in the Times' Letters section. Here's an excerpt from a January 2005 letter:

"I applaud our current president for calling upon former Presidents Bush and Clinton to lead a fund-raising campaign in support of Asian tsunami victims. I cannot think of two people working together who would be more appropriate.

Former President Bush can call upon several "thousand points of light" who benefited most from the unprecedented economic expansion seen during former President Clinton's tenure; and subsequently from this president's unprecedented income-tax relief."

And from an April 2004 letter:
"Tami Silicio's photo of flag-draped coffins is worthy of a Pulitzer Prize. Its clear emotional and intellectual immediacy places it among the best of wartime photography. It serves to honor our war dead, and to re-open active discussion of the Pentagon's long-shadowed policy of withholding such images from the public. Your paper deserves our thanks for the courage and discernment to publish it."

If he can't do simple arithmetic, perhaps his other views are similarly flawed... :-)

Posted by: Regret on February 15, 2005 10:48 AM
10. Dear Lord when will this be over. I have no hope that the lion and the lamb, Republicans and Democrats, the cat and the mouse will ever be best pals. But lets stop turning into the Art Bell Party. Not everything is a payback conspiracy. There is no 102% of the vote (except King County). There are only stupid people thinking dumb things. Facts are like white paint on the back on black pants. Everyone can see the truth. Not everyone wants to see the truth.

Posted by: Son of Liberty on February 15, 2005 10:58 AM
11. I think the Seattle Times played a switch-a-roo on us. That link now points to a letter about dealing with nonviolent offenders who are crowding our prisons.

Can someone re-post the original link please?

Posted by: Jason on February 15, 2005 11:17 AM
12. Nevermind, I didn't realize it was almost at the bottom of the page. At first I thought those were just responses to the first letter.

Posted by: Jason on February 15, 2005 11:22 AM
13. This letter to the Seattle Times, written, I would guess, by a Democrat, makes an unusual claim: In November, Washingtonians voted 53 percent for John Kerry vs. 49 percent for George Bush.

No. The writer must have been an R. The actual margin was much bigger 53 to 46 percent or 7.2 percent, much more than the 4 percent claimed by the writer.

Posted by: Erik on February 15, 2005 12:22 PM
14. Erik,

You are even more obtuse than I previously thought.

The writer implies that President Bush is declaring war on the Pacific Northwest via energy prices in payback for the PN voting for Kerry....and you think the writer is Republican.

You drink so much of the liberal Kool-Aid, don't be surprised when that big red jug with a smiley-face comes crashing into your pad.

Posted by: Larry on February 15, 2005 01:20 PM
15. Hard core liberals who do not want intelligent dialogue please exit stage left. Thank you.

Posted by: Rocky on February 15, 2005 02:21 PM
16. Drat! A better-than-expected turnout, not too much collateral damage, & the Sunnis in King County are still under-represented.

Posted by: sandalista on February 15, 2005 03:21 PM
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