February 13, 2005
Monday Morning Meeting

Dean Logan will be presenting his election report to the King County Council on Monday, Feb. 14, 9:30 a.m., 10th Floor, King County Courthouse, 3rd and James.

Predictions: Julia Patterson, Dwight Pelz and Larry Phillips will praise Dean Logan for conducting the most accurate election in human history and assert that it had an accuracy rate that the nuclear power industry would envy.

David Irons, Kathy Lambert and Steve Hammond, on the other hand, will be loaded for bear.

A bunch of lefty bloggers and journalists will later defend the nuclear power industry remark by favorably comparing King County Elections with Chernobyl.

I will attend the Council meeting. I don't believe there's a public comment period, so I'll smile quietly to myself as I take notes for later posting. Those of you who prefer to watch and/or blog in your pajamas should be able to watch the meeting on KCTV.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 13, 2005 10:52 PM | Email This
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1. Stefan....

You DO realize that your mere presence will cause fear and trembling among the Democrats......don't you? (snicker...I would love to be there to see them sweat...)

Why the constant televised *excuse gymastics* from Logan, Sims and Reed, the promise of *election reform* brochures from Geoff Simpson and Pat Sullivan and others from the *D* side of the State legislature over the past 2 weeks - if the November election was so darn stellar? Why are all of the county, state and election talking-heads taking turns explaining away the problems.....when they insist there were no problems?

Are they aware of how much attention they have brought to the election disaster...just by trying to excuse it?

I'll be watching on KCTV..

Posted by: Deborah on February 13, 2005 11:10 PM
2. Let us hope that the MSM will pay more heed to the R's on the council than they did last week when Shark's comments and guffaws over Simms' "bank" comparison were given short shrift.

Posted by: DeadWood on February 13, 2005 11:19 PM
3. Dead on prediction! Ahead of MSM again I see! LOL!

Posted by: tinwhistler on February 13, 2005 11:23 PM
4. I think your very presence is the reason 'ol Dean won't take any questions.

Posted by: Michele S on February 13, 2005 11:40 PM
5. I hope you've gotten a little "good house training" since the King Sims press conference Stefan.

Well, at least, have you been litter trained in the past few days?

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on February 13, 2005 11:47 PM
6. I am glad Little Ronnie was taught the lesons of respecting his elders or the opinions of others...however, there was an apparrent lack of good house training when it came to telling the truth and also to not steal....

Next time Sims runs for something, someone outta make some funny signs or stickers (for Ron to see) regarding this whole "good house training" stuff. He's a character!

Posted by: flexnfx on February 13, 2005 11:54 PM
7. "Good house Training" Spoof Picture...quick!

Posted by: flexnfx on February 14, 2005 12:24 AM
8. Might I suggest you losers get over it? Maybe Gov Rossi and President Gore should get together.

Posted by: gus on February 14, 2005 03:50 AM
9. Got on my pajamas, Pop Tarts at the ready, the remote in hand. Start the show...

Posted by: Revoter on February 14, 2005 07:38 AM
10. Name-calling, Gus? Sounds like you could use a little Sims-atizing.

Posted by: ERNurse on February 14, 2005 08:03 AM
11. Go get 'em Shark! I look forward to reading about what happens...I'm sure there'll be lots of a*s kissing all around and ignoring of any relevant facts whatsoever. Maybe you can pull their heads out for them, but somehow I think they'll resist.

:-)

Posted by: megs on February 14, 2005 08:16 AM
12. Comparisons between KC Elections and Chernobyl are actually pretty spot-on:

* Nuclear power and honest elections are both attainable goals which are attained without too much difficulty throughout most of the civilized world. Potential pitfalls are well-known, well-documented and generally avoided by responsible adults.

* Corrupt, dictatorial governments with little regard for the people whom they govern (e.g. USSR, Puget SSR), however, manage to implement "worst practices" (graphite moderators in the reactors, no containment bubble, voting by mail, "honor system" voter registration, automatic certification of irreconcilable resuts, etc, etc, etc) to screw what should be an unscrewable pooch.

Posted by: TB on February 14, 2005 08:23 AM
13. I REALLY looking forward to watching the dog and pony show today! King Sims has Logan well-trained, I mean "good house training," so he will be a hoppin' and a skippin' to the recount ho down.

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on February 14, 2005 08:46 AM
14. Sitting here patiently waiting for "IT" to begin...Rescheduled morning around this "EVENT"...Let the Show Begin..:)

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 09:37 AM
15. gus wrote: "Maybe Gov Rossi and President Gore should get together."

gosh, never heard that one before.

Posted by: kristen on February 14, 2005 09:37 AM
16. Is the meeting postponed? Or is the broadcast just turned off?

Posted by: Al on February 14, 2005 09:41 AM
17. ......waiting impatiently

Posted by: King County Voter on February 14, 2005 09:42 AM
18. LOL I think they read this Blog, and are frightened to broadcast it......Still Waiting :)

Posted by: chris on February 14, 2005 09:45 AM
19. Stefan's presence could be causing some anxiety also, maybe enough they forgot to turn on the Camera!!!!

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 09:47 AM
20. They need a Theme Song, this music is driving me crazy...Any Idea's fellow bloggers???

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 09:49 AM
21. This is starting to p me off! Are they doing a delayed broadcast, like the NFL does now, so they can black out portions? You know, like if Julia Patterson decides to expose her breast or something. Or, in case King Sims makes another comment about how his election system is the envy of banks?

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on February 14, 2005 09:53 AM
22. Woop, there it is.

Posted by: Al on February 14, 2005 09:53 AM
23. yesss

Posted by: King County Voter on February 14, 2005 09:53 AM
24. FYI, the council chambers has free WiFi access for all interested. We're live now! 30min late :)

Posted by: Jacob on February 14, 2005 09:56 AM
25. Well, darn! I could have gone and worked from there!!

Oopss .. they'll probably take it out once they realize that employed people can now go to their idiotic meetings and criticize them.

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on February 14, 2005 09:58 AM
26. I'm waiting for the Council to commend Carl Mack for "good house training"

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on February 14, 2005 10:01 AM
27. And in another KC-related story: Reagan Dunn was being questioned by the Council as he waited to be confirmed as the McKenna replacement.

Councilman Gosset ask him if as the head of Dunn's Greek system in college, if Dunn had known of a sor. or frat that excluded blacks, would Dunn be comfortable bringing it up publicly for discussion to persuade the group to change policy?

Reagan said he'd be very comfortable doing that. My question is------

Did Mr. Gossett support Christine Gregoire for gov?

Posted by: Michele S on February 14, 2005 10:05 AM
28. We need more of those Dead Man suits I saw at the Olympia rally, when there is nocomment period, a few people in those would surely make the point!

Posted by: GS on February 14, 2005 10:06 AM
29. We'd like commend Carl Mack for:

- Skyrocketing school insurance and litigation costs
- Tireless support of misunderstood crackheads
- Dynamic manipulation of the MSM for non-constructive ends

That was a cheap political shot by PVR. Apparently he got corced at the last moment to go up there, wonder what blackmail they have on him...

Posted by: mogura on February 14, 2005 10:06 AM
30. TB,

Great analogy, and another similarity is that even though nuclear power is thr safest, cheapest, cleanest, highest energy density form of power, Democrats don't like it. Democrats don't like clean elections even though we can easily create reforms that would provide clean elections.

Most leftists are just plain anti-technology and anti-progress. They'd like to see us return to the days of the caveman, wearing loin cloths and staying out of any kind of trouble that might "pollute" the earth or disturb the annointed rulers like Sims.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 14, 2005 10:12 AM
31. Gus: Maybe Gov Rossi and President Gore should get together.

I'm assuming you are a Gore apologist, meaning you believe that the R's stole the election from Gore.

Are you saying then that Gore and Rossi are in the same camp? Did you just admit that you believe the election was stolen from Rossi?

Posted by: Jonathan Gardner on February 14, 2005 10:15 AM
32. Please Please, those of you who are currently watching on TV or in the room,remember your "Good Housekeeping".

Posted by: GS on February 14, 2005 10:17 AM
33. Warning Just Issued on the House Keeping Issue LOL

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 10:19 AM
34. Geez, Is Phillips nervous?
What are these people afraid of?
Cindy

Posted by: cindy on February 14, 2005 10:21 AM
35. FUD-FUD-FUD- *behave or we'll sic the bouncers on you* -FUD-FUD-FUD...

As superior court justice just ruled in Constantine vs. Yousefian, public officials are now legally protected to say whatever they wish and call it 'facts' regardless of accuracy.

Posted by: mogura on February 14, 2005 10:23 AM
36. gus wrote: "Maybe Gov Rossi and President Gore should get together

Gus - Is that "good house training" protocol?

Posted by: flexnfx on February 14, 2005 10:26 AM
37. LOL This is hogwash!!! Big Words, words spoken with Passion still doesn't convince me!!!

Numbers will not Lie!!!

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 10:26 AM
38. The state auditor's association has a declared conflict of interest as the emails posted by stephan clearly point out.

Posted by: mogura on February 14, 2005 10:28 AM
39. Now after that speech, why do they need REFORM, for something that ran so PERFECTLY....

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 10:29 AM
40. Gus, you really should have kept up on the Florida election in regards to Gore. MSM organisations which paid for a complete count found over 1500 more votes for BUSH, yep, Gore lost even bigger when the media supporting him went over the results. Go figure, probably because the liberal standards were too biased and yet BUSH still won. In this election, where ROSSI won it twice before the liberal standards were imposed, every time MSM or the new media of Bloggers have investigated the results they have found more votes invalidating the results and giving an apparent total for a ROSSI win again. Instead of fighting for the WIN like Gore sought, ROSSI wants another vote, winner take all. Gus, you don't get fair play, your the liberal mainstream liberals feel are tearing the heart out of their party. Get over it, heal your party, or your party will slowly marginalize itself into non-existence.

Posted by: Mark Beyer on February 14, 2005 10:32 AM
41. Talk about a typical good ol' boy, slap ya on the back, warm and fuzzy, I'm OK we're all OK lovefest. Gag me. Truth is obviously not what we're in search for at this meeting. I find this kind of delusional behavior painful to watch.

Posted by: JB on February 14, 2005 11:01 AM
42. All the "Cr*apolo" about what "WE" did, well duh, we know what KC did, we just want them to admit it.

JB you are sooooo right, this is "sickening sweet".... I want some answers, not excuses, or twisted truth's...

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 11:15 AM
43. I am watching/listening to this streaming and have a question.

Is it just me or is he saying all the problems were caused because the KC elections office was not prepared for huge voter turnout (due to new standards being implemented) in 2004 AFTER they (KC) did a grat job by changing the systems ahead of time and under budget?

Isn't that a contradiction? We got done with changes ahead of schedule but we were not done which is why we had problems?

Posted by: Whidbey Teacher on February 14, 2005 11:28 AM
44. Patterson makes me tired watching her.....She looks/talks as though she is higher than a Kite!!!

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 11:35 AM
45. Ohhhh wow... Here it comes! comparing 2000 presidential to the gov race in 2004.
That is Lame Julia Patterson!

Posted by: Joe on February 14, 2005 11:37 AM
46. Poor thing (patterson) she is soooo saddened by the 2000 election.....

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 11:37 AM
47. Who elected Courtney Love to the council?

Posted by: mogura on February 14, 2005 11:38 AM
48. oh, yes, a lead in to, gotta raise taxes now to pay for the the NEW state of the ART election facility.

Nov 2005, evict King Ron.

Posted by: chardonnay on February 14, 2005 11:40 AM
49. Mogura: LOL So True, but the real "courtney" carries herself much better than her/patterson.

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 11:41 AM
50. Hammond is giving Logan heck now. LOL

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:08 PM
51. Go Steve Hammond! Loaded for bear is an understatement. Look at Dean squirm!

Posted by: JB on February 14, 2005 12:09 PM
52. Cultural issues? Pleeeeeeeeez.

Posted by: JB on February 14, 2005 12:10 PM
53. Squirm Deano Squirm.....

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:13 PM
54. Sigh, just when my councilman sights up his bear ( = soviet mascot) my connection starts dropping out. :(

Yet again another waste of taxpayer time and money. That report could have been put into record in a 5 second vote, then they could have spent the time asking questions instead.

Posted by: mogura on February 14, 2005 12:16 PM
55. Dead Spouse Voting ne Chicago ne Ukraine

ROTFLMAO!

Posted by: John on February 14, 2005 12:20 PM
56. Courtney's Back !!!!! Talking about head rolling LOL

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:31 PM
57. LOL She is ranting !!!! Grandma Head Rolling LOL

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:32 PM
58. Pelz, isnt that a type of candy dispencer, and my o my, he is talking about grandma's heads too.

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:34 PM
59. Is Patterson for real??? Concern for grandmothers who might not participate in the political process because they are afraid they will lose their heads -- PPPLLLLEEEEEEEEAAAAAASEEEEEE. Seatac- wake up! Vote this woman out.

Posted by: Nathan on February 14, 2005 12:36 PM
60. Mr Candyman can't speak, who elected him??? He just admitted he is old....Making excuses for Logan, Mr. Pelz!!!

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:39 PM
61. Did Deano say what I thought he just said? That the final number isn't necessary the number they use to certify? Thats what I took in what he said and that is why there is a different of 200 votes between what the 1800 and 1600 numbers represent.

Posted by: Mark Beyer on February 14, 2005 12:45 PM
62. Deano Lagoono: Just got a lesson on the Term "FRAUD"

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:45 PM
63. Gosset is making apologies for felons who are too poor to pay off their debts to society!
This is outrageous!
Who elected this guy?

Posted by: Joe on February 14, 2005 12:49 PM
64. Where is Martin Luther King County?!!?

Posted by: Scott in Carnation on February 14, 2005 12:49 PM
65. Pulling the race card now?... Hey, if you want to vote- don't commit a felony... It's a crime/legal issue not a race issue.

Posted by: Nathan on February 14, 2005 12:51 PM
66. Courtney is BACK !!!! She is apologizing again for 2000 election, and Gov 2004, and she is pathetic.....

Is she a Therapist in REAL LIFE????

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:51 PM
67. Your right, she does look HIGH or she must be brainwashed. Let me guess, good meds.

Posted by: Mark Beyer on February 14, 2005 12:53 PM
68. Goodness Graceous !!! He really thinks alot of himself.... How self serving....

Yes Mark, good meds....

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 12:55 PM
69. Hammond does love grandmothers.

After all the talk, the numbers still do not add up, provisionals,348 verses 252. the 900 found votes, 735 not counted, 566 were okayed? Of the 31000, 28000 are validated? I have the feeling that all the numbers will never be clear, and all comparisons are not valid. Do not reconcile votes on a precint by precint basis. but throw them all in a hopper.

The only clear notion, is that there is a lot of wiggle room, which does allow for fraud, no matter from where it comes, organized or not. And it seems all the democrats are in favor of continuing in that vein.

Balanced and honest my foot! Total BS

Posted by: cindy on February 14, 2005 12:55 PM
70. I've only caught the last 30 minutes or so of this and I gotta ask: this is a Saturday Night Live skit, isn't it? These people cannot be for real, can they? This is unbelieveable, what they're saying. How do they maintain a straight face?

Now I know why I only go into Seattle when forced to...........

Posted by: Scott in Carnation on February 14, 2005 12:55 PM
71. C'mon Dean, its obvious from the MSM, bloggers, adn the interest you specifically highlighted that EVERYONE has lost truct in King County elections.

Posted by: Mark Beyer on February 14, 2005 12:57 PM
72. I am yakking on my keyboard here..........

Posted by: Scott in Carnation on February 14, 2005 01:00 PM
73. What a pathetic meeting!

Typical liberal feel good group grope.

The Repubs. didn't show me much either.

Posted by: Norm on February 14, 2005 01:00 PM
74. The only way we will ever get to *truth* in King County is to get a group in there to look at their system who's job is *NOT* dependent on what they find out. We'll never see the truth from these clowns on TV today.

Posted by: palmerbr on February 14, 2005 01:01 PM
75. My office is (unfortunately) in Seattle...but barely. However, I can smell the BS from the King County Council meeting just as if I were standing in the middle of a 100,000-head cattle feedlot back in TX. I just can't believe this stuff.

Who elects these people? Is it a requirement that they have a frontal lobotomy before taking the oath of office?

Posted by: SnoCo Voter on February 14, 2005 01:01 PM
76. I missed most of this (thank GAWD!), didn't Lambert and Irons hit them hard? Did they hold back? is it still to come? Are our Republican watchdogs worthless, or is the battle not yet joined?

Posted by: Scott in Carnation on February 14, 2005 01:03 PM
77. Where were the tough questions from Republicans on the council? Maybe I missed something of substance earlier on in the meeting, but it seems that there was a lot of political maneuvering and very little fact-finding going on. And Patterson... ugh-

Posted by: Nathan on February 14, 2005 01:05 PM
78. Scott in Carnation, let's hope it's the latter. I'm old-fashioned. I believe truth and justice will always prevail eventually.

Posted by: JB on February 14, 2005 01:06 PM
79. Calm down folks--
This "Beauty Contest" is a monumental waste of time and has no bearing on the Election COntest.
Deposing Logan, Huennekens & staff is where the real fun begins. Let them "publicly" defend all their actions. All it does is give the Rep. Attorneys more to question.

The bottom-line(s) will be many. But one major one will be the Precindt pollbook reconciliations that were signed by the pollworkers election night accounting for and attesting to all ballots received. They were REQUIRED to reconcile these pollbooks and sign. All ballots received accounted for. All ballots issued by the pollworkers accounted for. Plenty of neglect here too.

If Logan was squirming under weak questioning by Council Members, just think what he will look like while be questioned by big-time attorneys!!

This was indeed a "Beauty Contest" as opposed to the "Election Contest"(which is what really matters).

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 14, 2005 01:15 PM
80. Mr. Cynical, you are spot-on correct. This whole political exercise in the end means little and does nothing but actually help the election contest because if it is shown later that they said one thing here and another under oath - one more nail in their coffin.

Posted by: Scott in Carnation on February 14, 2005 01:24 PM
81. When Logan was asked if he thought voter confidence had increased, decreased, or stayed the same since he was appointed, I figured for sure he would try to put a pretty face on it. When he said "stayed the same" my initial reaction was "Please, how can you say that?" until he acknowledged that when he was appointed, voter confidence was pretty low, as it is now. Yeah, he did try to put lipstick on that pig, but I have to give him credit for at least acknowledging that voter confidence is low, and that in the few years he's been in charge he hasn't been able to change that one bit. You could read more into that in the sense that he was hired specifically to improve the situation, not to maintain the status quo. So by his own admission, he hasn't done what he was hired to do. When they talk about heads rolling, they out to look at the top first.

Posted by: Jason on February 14, 2005 01:56 PM
82. My Word!

This Patterson woman was looped! I was rolling when I read the others comments on her....It's nice to know, this wasn't just my observation!

And she took the opportunity to imply that this entire questioning process of Logan was born out of a sour-grapes partisanship of the Republicans! Every time she was called on to speak - she made this implication - then went on to a Rodney King mantra of "can we all just get along"? She completely ignores the fact that it is a bi-partisan majority of citizens who share the concern over our botched election system!.....I cannot believe she is in a position of authority. (The more I get to see our local and state government officials in action - the
more I shake my head in horror!)

And the spin spewing from Logan over numbers, processes, mailings! It made me sick. How can this man sleep at night?

Anyway - The entire show was laughable and embarrassing......That seems to be how the rest of our state is percieved as well....sigh...

Posted by: Deborah on February 14, 2005 02:06 PM
83. Deborah: It is a shame, but that is how our entire state is percieved.

Patterson needs to see her MD. I would swear that she looks just like my mum in law when she has taken too many percocets....That woman is scary....And to keep harping about the "Unhappy" republicans and that she knows exactly how they felt back in 2000. Jeeessshhhh... And the Grandma Head Rolling episode, you would think she was talking to 2 year olds, the way she scolded Hammond.

Hammond wanted to ask more tough questions, and Lambert tried in her "nice" way, but I think it was orchestrated so that we (TV veiwers) didnt get to witness the Good Stuff....

The More I See, the more my nose tells me there is a dead fish somewhere.....

Posted by: Chris on February 14, 2005 02:34 PM
84. Obviously folks...Ms. Patterson's papa was a rollin' stone.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 14, 2005 05:25 PM
85. I did like the questioning of the 'net' total-
20 with/ 20 without = 0 zero so that the
discrepancy is much larger and is easily
understood. Overall pitiful that Logan
read his written report and wasted his/thiers/our
time hoping/thinking this will fade away
(notice that they might not bring Logan back
to talk-- second rate setup and lousy performance
of theater by them).

So much for the clean election, Sims.

Posted by: goop on February 14, 2005 07:24 PM
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