January 23, 2005
Election Reform Advisory Board
Secretary of State Sam Reed has appointed an election reform advisory board:
An Advisory Board charged with distributing federal funds to Washington counties to pay for election reforms will meet this week.
Members of the board appointed by the Secretary:
# Thad Duvall – Douglass County Auditor
# Kris Swanson – Cowlitz County Auditor
# Dean Logan – King County Director of Records, Elections and Licensing
# Nick Handy – Representing the Office of the Secretary of State
# Doug Cocheran – Former Yakima County Auditor – Member at large
Does it take more chutzpah to (a) appoint Dean Logan to a committee on election reform, or (b) appoint the Ochoa brothers
to a committee on reforming drug laws?
hat tip: Scott, the "Drunken Republican", whose commentary suggests he's more sober than he gives himself credit for.
UPDATE: Some suggest that it is inappropriate to equate an election official like Dean Logan with convicted drug dealers like the Ochoa brothers. Fair enough, I have never heard it alleged that Dean Logan was a drug dealer, even though as recently as a year ago a convicted drug dealer had been performing important services for King County Elections, and according to sources, there is at least one convicted drug dealer still employed in a position of responsibility in the King County Elections office. A more fair question might be this one: Does it take more chutzpah to (a) appoint Dean Logan to a committee on election reform, or (b) appoint Andrew Fastow to a committee on corporate accounting reform? [My apologies to the Ochoa brothers for the earlier comparison with Dean Logan]
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at January 23, 2005
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1. God, why not just dig up Richard Daley and put him on the board too.
Doesn't surprise me at all, but it won't matter at all what they come up with, the Legislature will not change anything that would mess with their abilty to elect whomever, however.
Next they will be wanting performance audits paid for and hired by the individual departments. I like TIm Eyeman's performance audit initiative much better.
3. No big surprise... Logan and Reed go way back. I suspect someone put pressure on Reed to appoint Logan. Bad move Reed. You just gave the 'Recall Reed' movement the boost it needed.
4. Maybe Nixon should have appointed G. Gordon Liddy to run the Watergate investigation.
Does it take more chutzpah to (a) appoint Dean Logan to a committee on election reform, or (b) appoint the Ochoa brothers to a committee on reforming drug laws?
Channeling Groucho again, I see. 8>)
It's a good question though. I'd say it's a tossup.
6. The "hat tip" should go to the Josef Public Journal and Orbusmax, they had this stuff posted since early this morning. Those guys seem to be on top of some good information and it's not anywhere to be found in the mainstream press.
7. Rossi has filed a separate challenge with the state Legislature
Read story here.
MacDonald and transportation, Reed and elections, Gregoire and taxes, McAuliffe and tolls, education spending, viaducts, Sound Transit, Monorail, ....
Post election on top of the Legislative nonsense, and the vote. Enough to depress someone, really.
Be back in a short.
9. It does appear like they are leaving the fox to guard the henhouse.
Hey Eric, just to defend my hat tip: I had the story posted at 6:21 pm last night
. Then I posted to the Free Republic Washington message board at 6:28 (I'd link, but SP's comment system won't let me), which is where Josef picked it up (as he says himself) and posted at 11:30
Sorry to be so anal, but this is my first scoop, and I'm not giving up the credit without a fight.
11. Josef has more analysis on it than you do, and he has been covering this stuff for a while, and he hardly ever gets credit. Good job on your part though, you were first.
12. HEY GUYS KNOCK IT OFF!
Look... I don't care who posted what first where. Kudo's to whoever all right? Let's not get in a snit with each other about that. We have a big challenge just getting the info out to the apathetic public. Be honest... with the issue in court in Chelan County the issue is starting to drag with people in general. We may win in court but in the PR war we're starting to be overrun. Instead of picking on each other let's work together to keep support for a REVOTE going! The Dem election machine is united against us and the voting rights of WA citizens. Quit fighting for your own 15 minutes of fame and help get the TRUTH out there! When we have a legitimate govenor then we'll play Star Wars and let the Princess pass out medals!
Take a deep breath...if this goes to a REVOTE (which I think it will), the Dems have already screwed themselves lead by their Queen Bee who foolishly said:
"this election is a model to the rest of the nation and the world at large".
Obviously it is not and she will be pounded repeated with her own words in a revote.
The problem here is the "timeline" for justice.
Too much, too soon is not a good strategy.
I prefer seeing a steady stream like we are seeing, right up to the CourtHouse.
Remember Victor, the revote isn't necessarily tomorrow.
I've seen no polls than indicate Gregoire is picking up steam. If anything, this constant flow of information about illegal acts and groos incompetence in KingCo is worse for her....kind of like the Chinese Water Torture treatment.
I know people that have put a lot into this and continue to do so. I don't see any of them panicking...in fact most have never been more encouraged.
So Victor--rather than panic, spend your time helping instead. Call the R Headquarters and see what you can do. Perhaps you can help sort thru data in your County?? Many hands make for light work.
I'm going to call Reed's office tomorrow and urge him to take Dean Logan off this advisory panel. I suggest others do the same. This is outrageous. At best this is a conflict of interest for Logan to serve on this panel during the discovery process which may largely implicate his office as responsible for the very problems he is addressing on the panel.
At worst, this is the fox guarding the hen house.
This is Reed's chance to redeem himself. Appoint a strong panel to reform eletions and loudly and continuously insist on rigorous reforms that are more than what the weak-knee Democrat controlled legislature are currently supporting.
If Reed fails in this task, then it will definitely be time to rally all voters to oust him from his post. Afterall, what the heck is a Secretary of State elected to office for.....?
15. Chill out, Vic dude. No one's in a snit here, except possibly you.
I read in the MSM that CG is relaxing some DSHS rules for health care, as well as trying to accomplish other political goals to please certain Washingtonians. Of course the MSM article stated that by the time that a ReVote actually happens if it does at all it would be not untill June or later, and that she would probably get more votes then than she would if the ReVote election were to occur very soon. I know, don't listen to MSM.
But it seems to me that CG is desperately trying to secure any future votes she can, any way she can, while following her leftist agenda. Which is business as usual for CG and the Democratic Party.
17. just e-mailed sos, aked him if just commited political suicide naming dl to the board.
start sending e=mails to sos and give him an earfull. mark klick. county
Reed showed himself to be an anatomical jellyfish by appointing one more "Blue Ribbon" panel. Just as I was beginning to have a little respect for the guy, he pulls this ! This political correctness behind the appointment of this panel smells of stench !
I hope this does not diminish the quest for the truth by the bloggers, talk radio and the Rossi campaign, because this panel will not come up with effective remedies and you can take that to the bank !
LOL, Stefan--A. Fastow as a member of the "corporate reform task force"! HOW the dems would scream! And the rest of us would be perplexed, as well!
Now why doesn't Sam Reed get it??
20. So this is the best Fraudoire's Commissar Sam Reed can do? Seems to me like he's currying favor with an illegitimate governor. This whole "select commission" is just a scam, a showboat by Fraudroire to make it look like "we're doing something" about the obviously fraudulent election. This is SOP for Democrats, as we learned during the Clinton regime. Take the spotlight off your own wrongdoing by appointing some clown of a commission to "look into" (i.e., bury) anything fishy.
SoS - Political Genius, or Suicidal?
Someone posted here at SP recently that Reed was pursuing a crafty strategy by certifying CG as the winner. The reasoning was that if Reed, being a Republican, had refused to certify, the MSM and the Dems would have indelibly painted him as a partisan hack. By certifying (so the theory went), Reed survived to fight another day. Then he would wait patiently, allowing the Dems to gather the rope to hang themselves with, until such time as he could strike a decisive blow.
I can't say that I buy this argument, but it would be nice if Reed was such a brilliant tactician.
Because if he is, the obvious explanation for his appointment of Logan to the commission is to put Logan in the spotlight. Then, when blunders and mismanagement by KC Elections are brought out in court in the election contest, Logan's fall would be all the harder.
But the only political operative that savvy is Karl Rove, and Reed is no K-, uh, hey - wait a minute! Has anyone ever actually seen Reed and Rove together in person?
22. To Mr. Cynical and ScottM.
Point taken guys. Sometimes it just gets to me and I'll admit to being sensitive about what appears to be infighting.
On Reed's new commission... If the Nov election was such a "model" why appoint people to look into the problems?
23. Sam Reed sounded so reeeasonable on John Carlson's show last week and then he pulls this. Is he begging to be recalled?
24. Some suggest that it is inappropriate to equate an election official like Dean Logan with convicted drug dealers like the Ochoa brothers
No problem Shark. We're all hip to your style.
appoint Andrew Fastow to a committee on corporate accounting reform?
Right on, Shark. We all know drug dealers are intrinsically incapable of seeing the errors of their ways and should never be entrusted with civil service. I'm comforted to know you think the same about white collar criminals and corporate governance. How much did you lose on Enron?
[My apologies to the Ochoa brothers for the earlier comparison with Dean Logan]
Ooooooh. You got Logan good, Shark.
John identifies his paucity of nuance:
"'My apologies to the Ochoa brothers for the earlier comparison with Dean Logan]'
"Ooooooh. You got Logan good, Shark."
Don't worry, John, your drug dealer will probably still be available after Rossi is rightfully elected...though your job with the Governor is likely to be in jeopardy...
Just thinking out-loud here..(which is what I do in all of my posts..hehe)
If we go backwards a little in this election...There was a post that mentioned an election worker in a county (not King) making a statement that they purposely held back in reporting their vote count totals because of the King County funny business....Most of the other counties did INDEED delay their reporting of daily tallies until after King County.
I remember reading the times listed for each county, when they would be reporting new totals. Most of them were after the time or date of King County. I saw that other counties were staggering the reports of their totals. This is huge!
If all of the other Counties in the State made an orchestrated effort to delay reporting their vote totals until after King County....Who initiated it?
(By the way...I believe it was this effort to stagger the county totals that caused King County to have to resort to the bizarre ballot finds over the course of the 3 counts....KC had no idea how much stuffing was needed to win.)
During the first vote count, KC saw what was happening with the other counties delaying their tallies. They knew they wouldn't be able to get an accurate idea of how many votes were needed for Gregoire to win - unless they stalled their final vote count. So they claimed they had found 10,000+ ballots 2 days before certification in the original vote count. This wasn't enough! They didn't crunch the numbers accurately and Rossi won.
Then, during the machine recount, the countys again staggered their reporting.....KC panicked began *finding* ballots everywhere (see Brians timeline)! It still wasn't enough - and Rossi won again.
During the hand recount, KC had a pretty good idea of what they needed to win. They somehow managed to get enough ballots during the hand recunt to give Gregoire a 10 point lead - but they (the Dems) were also pressing the courts to allow them to add previously rejected provisional ballots - which ultimately gave Gregoire the 129 vote lead at the end.
OK...back to the staggering of the other county totals......How was this arranged? Who arranged it? Where are these county elections workers now -with this contest? If it were arranged by Reed - he certainly wouldn't pick Logan for this new election reform board....
Something big was happening before this election due to the rest of the states lack of trust in King County....An agreement among the other counties to stagger the reporting in an effort to trip up KC's fraud?
I thought you R's prided yourselves on "not doing nuance"? Too bad you're so afflicted with sophistication. That might put you on the margins within your party.
My drug dealer? You mean Walgreen's, Rite Aid or Longs? I hope so. If an R or D's kid needs anti-biotic for their ear infection it'd be a shame if they suffered or died.
My job with Governor Gregoire? Damn, smeg, I don't have one.
How is it you know so much about me? Are you privy to some clairvoyance drug? It sure ain't workin' bud because I neither use drugs beyond a cold rememdy nor am I employed by either the State or a political party. Better get your money back.