If you get King5 News at 10:00 on any channel:
Second 30 minutes is UP FRONT with Robert Mak.
He is interviewing SOS Sam Reed right now;
Dino is supposed to be up next.

Methow Ken

There is streaming video with the Dino interview and a link to send Dino an email. I sent him my email of support.

Tomorrow I send my second check to the Republican Party.

Once the stricter rules and controls are in place, we need a COMPLETE RE-REGISTRATION OF VOTERS IN WASHINGTON. Nothing short of this will do.

In addition, we need to fight for standardizing voter registration nationally...using Social Security Numbers. I believe the cases of voters being registered more than once is immense, within a state but especially in more than one state. The State's don't copare voter registration databases. And even if they did, the problem of ferreting out those registered in more than one state would be immense without using SS#'s. Also very likely many non-citizens are registered too.

The Lefty's will be squawking about this as TOO COSTLY or TOO INTRUSIVE. Why?? Because they know it's their Party that benefits from these loosey-goosey controls!!!
I think the anecdotal examples give lots of steam to those of us who desperately want reform but see it as extremely difficult without registration and database maintenance reform.
WE WILL NEED TO SCREAM EVEN LOUDER TO DEMAND THAT THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY..IN WASHINGTON STATE AND THE OTHER 49.

Isn't it the Lefty's who keep screaming about voters being disenfranchised because legal votes aren't counted?? Well, it's ALL OF US who are disenfranchised (or call it RIPPED OFF!) when illegal ballots are cast.

Thanks for the reminder of the Military Ballot mailings.

Any mishandling of these would be a Federal issue...That fact alone makes it worthy of further investigation.

The mere possibility - that the brave men and women in our armed services - may have been denied their ability to vote..due to some laziness, or error or even partisanship of King County....is enough to demand a complete accounting!

And if y'all visit www.leg.wa.gov and punch in 5078, you will see that a vehicle to make this happen is already in play. It is one of the shortest bills I have seen in some time, but it does the job.... what the heck, it's so short I might as well paste in the text:
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A new section is added to chapter 29A.08 RCW to read as follows:
The registration of a person who registered to vote before July 1, 2005, is canceled on July 1, 2007, and that person must reregister in order to vote at an election held after that date. The registration of a person who first registers to vote or reregisters after June 30, 2005, continues to be valid after July 1, 2007, unless canceled or inactivated as otherwise provided by law.
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Whether it is loudly or muted, contact your legislators and urge them to support SB 5078.

ReVote and ReRegister !!

Methow Ken

Ideally, we would also have a national driver's license/state ID card registry -- and require that someone have a legal status in this country (also verified by SSA) to have a driver's license or state ID card. And make sure that no one can have a driver's license or state ID in more than one state at the same time.

And I wouldn't be opposed to an automatic voter registration system for anyone getting a driver's license or state ID card -- provided, of course, there is a national database with citizenship verification.

I also think we should have automatic employment eligibility verification. Each employer should send in information about new hires within 30 days of hiring. This new hire information, along with the quarterly unemployment tax returns, would be checked against the SSA database to see if the employee was eligible to work. If not, the employer would have to fire that person. An employee could appeal, and keep their job pending the appeal, but would be entered into the INS system (and deported if they lose).

Of course, the INS should also deport all of the people who they have final deportation orders against. If it was made impractical for employers to hire illegal workers, then a lot fewer people would come here or stay here illegally in the first place.

Not only do we have a voter security problem from illegal or fictitious identities, but we have a homeland security (in the literal sense, as opposed to the new federal agency sense) problem as well.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of interest groups, on all sides of the political fence, that want to make things easy for illegal aliens, for various reasons of concern to them. Employers wanting cheap labor. Ethnic organizations of various sorts. Politicians who want votes of ethnic groups and future citizens from those currently illegal residents. People who have a soft heart for long time illegal residents.

I'm not sure if this is a factor in this or not.

But..whatever the remedy..we have to be careful. The people of this nation are fed up with the oppressive security measures placed into effect after 911. It seems as though the only people detained at airports are elderly white women and children! Border Security has been sitting on the *PeeCee* fence since the Clinton days...

Before we implement a national ID (which will be couterfeited within days..) - we really need to stop the political correctness and begin to profile.

We need an identification system that is reliable, tamper proof and won't scream Big Brother to the people of this country.. Iris scans, chips, finger prints are all overkill and intrusive....

Biometric data and the like doesn’t prove citizenship but only provides identification of the individual. Citizenship requires further documentation. Unfortunately, a declaration is legal proof of citizenship.

They complained about the R's efforts to find convicted felons. Yet they are dead-silent when they find out the Sec. of State gave voter lists that included birthdates (when they wouldn't give this same information to BIAW). Scandalous!!!!!

You have seen this nonsensical Dem drival (FLIP-FLOPPING) in order to confuse because:
THE END JUSTIFIES ANY MEANS! INCLUDING HYPOCISY AND CHEATING!

You are onto something.

This is the what you need to find out.

Did the remaining ballots go to that snohomish vendor because they were not ready to mail? This seems to be the only logical explanation for sending them to a vendor.

I have worked for assembly companies like this before and know the time constraints to finishing a job, depending on what is needed to complete it they may not have made it to the post office on the same day.

Second, if these ballots did need further work before mailing, King County is hiding the fact that they did not, in fact, go out on the day they claim. Instead they are stating that they believed the ballots were "mailed" when the were released to the vendor. This is instead, a clever play on words.

How transparent of them!

I thought the federal government said the ballots had to be mailed out 45 days prior to elections. Oct. 7 to Nov. 2 is 26 days. What dates are we looking at to fulfill the 45 day requirement????

"There is no sex between the President and Miss Lewinsky."
-- No mention of whether or not there *was* sex. Hangs on what the meaning of the word "is" is.

I dunno how things are working these days, but back when I was carrying an M-16 to work every day and my business suit was inspired by the "shrubbery" motif, mail took four weeks to get to me, and two weeks back (go figure... guess the pilots were more anxious to get back to the States than to leave). That was '96, but based on that experience, even something mailed on 10/7 would have arrived late enough to be nothing but a nice, frameable souvenir of my disenfranchisement. Please note that the DOJ was threatening a lawsuit by the time these went out, so we should not accept that even 10/7 was a truly acceptable date. Legally, they might squeak by with 10/7, but in practical terms, I'm not sure it works.

Bostonian, one quick observation: Good catch in noticing the bit about the midterms. But those are Republicans sponsoring this bill, and it's in their interest to clean up the rolls ASAP. I suspect they're just deferring to the reality of the timelines of a titanic project in order to defuse objections and just get the darn thing passed.

Also, my husband and I, along with the rest of our neighborhood-received our absentee ballots-in pierce county-5 days prior to the elections.
I recall something in the newspapers around mid to late October regarding the absentee ballots and how late they were going to come out this year. I just dont recall the specifics.

It seems rather odd that one County would send mail out through another County.....

It does seem ironic that the felon, Jeff Dean, owned a *Mailing* company in Snohomish County....
That company was Spectrum Printing and Mailing services....It was bought out by Global Elections Systems - a company that Dean became a Senior VP at...

I'd like to see a list of mailing companies contracted by King County.

When a mass mailing arrived at the central break down distribution point, it went into the system as it arrived, in relation to other arrivals. A mass mailing, even after the fees were paid, could sit for a day or two before it was "broke down" and actually entered the in-transit mail stream.

At that time, there was only one real "break down" unit in Puget Sound, perhaps that has changed, but I do not believe it has.

By not delivering the "military mass mailing" directly to the mass mailing breakdown unit and sending it for a long drive, via any Snohomish County Mailing Service, they were only builing a paper wall to hide responsibility of their failure to meet the government schedule.

Once that service received that particular mass mailing, even if it was at 11:59 pm at night, the Election people could claim, falsely, that they had met the government requirement of an on-time mailing.

It is not a question of when a mass mailing was delivered or accepted at an official reception point, it is a question of when it was actually broken down and entered into the delivery system for real tranportation to the addressee.

I have not seen anyone seeking that information, which the Post Office has to have available under the right questioning.

October 8th was a Friday, the day that every professional mailer and mass mailier strives to insure their weeks mass mailing arrives at the Post Office. This has always, at least in my day, lead to massive delay in the break down of mass mailings, as the Post Office break down unit is over loaded on such a day.

Remember, it was also the middle of the Christmas mass mailing time, with many mass mailings by every advertiser, credit card or loan company that could afford it.

Unless something has greatly changed, the Post Office mass mailing center on that Friday was a place of stacks and stacks of all classes of mass mailing. Each waiting its turn to be broken down, which could have taken many hours, even a day or two, before the last "Officially Received Mail for that day" was worked on.

The delivery to Snohomish County, requiring driving time from the Elections Office to the mailer and then for the mailer to drive back to the Post Office break down unit surely added to the delay in its arrival at the Post Office break down unit. That is, unless the easy route of deliverying it to the local Snohomish County Post Office was the one used. This would have shown the correct date, while they all knew, it also would mean that mass mailing would not actually be placed in the in-transit mailing stream that day, and perhaps for two or three days.

If the commerical mailer delivered the mass Election mailing to their local Post Office, even though it arrived at the Post Office for the official record that day, it may not have arrived at the main mass mailing break down unit until Saturday and perhaps later. In either case, it would have been behind the stacks of commerical mass mailing that would have arrived at the break down point via straight delivery from every mass mailing creator in the Seattle region.

Personally, this is probably the item that mostly demands deep research, into the actual break down and the mailed Ballots entering into the actual in-transit mail stream time, against the offical acceptance time.

If, as I think it probably did, this planned action placed this time critical military election mass mailing at the furthest end of the break down scheme. If so, it was done with direct resolve of those in charge and not by some accidental event along the path the mail had to travel.

I have been waiting for some current, commecial mailer to write of what I have, as my knowledge is some years removed. But, a good interview with one large commerical mailer concerning the arrival of time critical material at their plant, its processing, its arrival at the main mass mailing Post Office, its placement in the daily stream of mass mailings, is the critical point in proving election fraud or stupidity in the sending of Military and other Ballots to some commercial mailing site, instead of the direct mass mailing break down point directly from the Elections Office.

The Elections Office should have taken the mass mailing directly to the direct Post Office mass mailing reception point point under any condtion and to do otherwise was to take a known route to delaying the break down in the Seattle Area mass mailing break down unit.

To transfer it to a Commercial Mailer to transfer it to the Post Office, allowed them to deliver it to a local Post Office with a legal received time, that insured a delay in delivery.

Such a local Post Office may or may not take the received mass mailing to the mass mailing break down point on the 8th, it may not have gotten there until the 9th, the 10th or the next real business day, the 11th for its real first, opportunity to enter the out going mail stream, where it would have been placed behind all the other mass mailings already there.

How often have you stood in a Post Office and read the times that they had to have the mail to insure it entered the real in-transit stream that day? One minute late and even though it had the same date stamp, that mailing may not enter the in-transit mail stream until the next working day.

I know, people were going to check the dates the mass mailing was received, but was the time it was processed checked?

Maybe a FOIA needed here?

As I have said elsewhere, one of the fundamental tenets of liberalism is that it's more important to have an excuse for doing something wrong that it is to simply do it right. That the Democrats in fact benefit from doing it 'wrong' in this case is a bonus.