For a felony conviction, the prosecuting attorney need only prove that the registrant knew that the address given for their residence was false. A very easy proposition to prove for a private mailbox service, or storage facility.

For a registration cancellation, the challenger must also prove where the registrant actually lives, in addition to prove that the person does not live at the private mailbox service or storage facility.

How convenient. In other words: when our side spends millions in taxpayer money to challenge the outcome of an election because we don't like the results, it's honorable, when the other side does it, it's "irresponsible". If Morton's candidate were in the same position, we can be sure he'd make the same appeal Rossi is making now.

1. It is commercial, it is then probably not a "Residence"

2. Exempt. If it is probably county or state building.

This is not foolproof, the databases are a little persnickety about address format etc. but once I get the data to test on I am sure I can get near 99% hit's, if the address actually exists.

I did that in 4 hours out of curiosity, and I had to use a lot of screen scraping and other techniques to make it work, feeding each address in fromt the list (if they ever give it to me, only snohomish has even responded) will be interesting.

So how hard do you think it would be for KC or Snohomish that has access to the actual database to flag questionable registrants?

Answer; not hard at all if they really wanted to.

Question; Why dont they want to?

Whoever this person is, they should be figuratively nailed to a large cross. There they will hang as the poster child for what Democrats should not be doing in elections.

Why is it so hard for Democrats to accept that the bare minimum is a fair, objective, accurate process? If a Democrat wins under such a proper contest, great, that is how it should work and we all applaud their skill in campaigning and the will of the people.

But folks like Goldy want to see this election end as quickly as possible, and then worry about any inconsistencies later. UH, SORRY, that's not how it works. We need to get to the bottom of this right now while the most significant office in the state is in the balance. Using the governorship as a carrot to incentivize every Washingtonion to participate in cleaning up the mess is the prudent thing to do.

GO SHARK GO!

The woman on the phone got upset and informed me that those are 'homeless people who live there during the winter.' I asked if they lived in the Commission's office, and how they could all fit in there. She replied that the courthouse let them live there and it was perfectly legal to give both the voting and mailing addresses as being at that address.

I then called King County, and asked if I could come down and personally meet the 300 people who live there, maybe buy them all a cup of coffee. The person who answered had no idea what I was talking about. I calmly and precisely communicated the above story, and said that since the election was relatively recent, that it was wintertime, and it was cold and rainy out, wouldn't most of those people be in the building?

The man responded that I could come down today until 4:30, or on Monday, but that he worked in the vehicle section, the building was locked down at 4:30, and that he 'had never seen 300 people in this building.'

Things that make you go 'hmmmmm.....'

Off-the-shelf address-correction (i.e. "CASS") software used by the direct mail industry can identify business & residential addresses very precisely because they match up with the master USPS database of all addresses, which includes Apartment, Home & Business coding. Not sure how fast you could get a free, 30-day eval copy of the s/w (which often retails about $1,500), but it is out there. Satori Software is in Seattle, but I don't know if their s/w will code records for address type.

Hey, my own family can sit down at the dinner table and easily know that the Democrats are stealing votes. You can see it happening while the ballots are being found. If the Democrats need to find votes, and to cover themselves, their going to need to find registered voters that they can vote through, right? It has the appearance of being "legal". And it's the least of their imaginations!

But doesn’t it all ride on the fact that Gregoire thinks no one in Washington would ever bother to discover the evidence?

He's accusing Stefan of political blackmail. Why would Stefan be so dumb as to use this name for blackmail? It will be far more useful and entertaining to simply annouce who this person is and watch the Democrats wriggle.

Goldy, prepare to wriggle.

In an afternoon I came up with a pretty good scheme to reject registrants based on county parcel information using a utility that I wrote in 4 hours, that uses the counties web system, if I had access to the databases proper (vs the web interface) I could do a bangup job in about a week.

With the software you pointed out you could easily correct the mangled addresses and re-run the exceptions.

Point was that the counties could easily do this too, and it's malfeasance in the extreme that they have not done so, though I am sure the Dem's appreciate it.

There is no legal requirement that the challenger actually establish WHERE the individual resides though it would be useful to have a real residence when making one's case (because intent to make a place one's home is a key element of establishing residence).

There are a series of elements obtainable from the sec. of state's office including where their spouses reside, where they have their driver's license address, etc. that are helpful in determining whether residency has been established.

The challenger does have the burden of proof but this is not a daunting burden where the address in question is not an actual residence.

Sam Reed should have long ago tried to assemble a bi-partisan group of County Auditors and pressured King Co. to allow this group to review what has been done. He didn't. Could the reason be Dean Logan once worked for him? And why did the Democrat Auditor who is President of the State Assoc. of County Auditors try to get other Auditors to sign a letter of support for the actions of Dean Logan? How would she have even known if Logan did a good job or not. Fortunately, some good R Auditors refused to sign. But I heard some R's were dumb enough to agree to sign. It's called "bureacratic circle the wagons"! Wasn't Logan trained by Sam Reed?
Didn't Reed say it would take yet another month to reconcile voter registration list totals to total ballots counted? I can't believe I naively voted for Reed.

"Intriguingly, one of the people in King County who has registered and voted at an illegal address is a very prominent citizen for whom a felony conviction (or even an investigation) for fraudulent voter registration could end their career. This is someone I think a lot of Democrats would feel bad about losing if they end up being sacrificed in this tsunami of illegitimate voting.

My guess is that it's so juicy a secret that it can only be. . .Christine Gregoire.

Let me try an analogy (and I warn you in advance I am woefully bad at making analogies, but I have a disease that stops me from not making them ;^): you and your buddy are surrounded on four sides by robbers, and you hear gunshots, turn to see your buddy is dead, and look up and see a robber holding a smoking gun. You conclude he shot your buddy - all the evidence is there that you need. However, when you look around, you find that all four bad guys have smoking guns, and at least one of them is dead too. Now what can you conclude?

Like I said, I'm rotten at analogies, but perhaps that helps make my point.

"no person gains residence by reason of his or her presence... While a student at any institution of learning"

I wonder how many college students voted illegally.

They would only have voted illegally if they voted here and in their home location. There is no residency requirement for Washington voting (as opposed to other things, such as the DMV, etc).

I checked on this a while back.

DA

Oh man, does that sound juicy or what!

But after thinking a bit I can't get too excited about this without knowing if the mystery citizen is actually a resident of King County.

If they are a resident, and thus entitled to vote in in King County, I doubt this would ruin their career. Do you think there's a single judge who would levy a FELONY conviction for screwing up the paperwork process of registering to vote? As much as I want Rossi, I feel such a conviction would be over-the-top heavy-handedness.

Fill out a voter registration, carelessly put your mailing address where your residence address should go (and vice-versa), and wham - Instant Felon!

On the other hand, if this person actually resides outside of King County and registered to vote in the county, then throw the book at them.

Now if they voted in two counties this election, that would be hot, hot, hot!

Which then begs the question -- are people registering with illegal addresses so they can vote in more than one county? Does the State (or anyone) check for this type of fraud?

Are any of you guys crunching the election data going to compare data between counties (say King against Snohomish)?

* Anuj Rathi of Mumbai, India - didn't vote
* Rayko Suzuki of Japan - not listed in Seattle times database
* Pascal Engi of Switzerland - didn't vote
* Mike Harder and Michael D Harder - same address - didn't vote. The address - 509 3rd ave is downtown emergency services center.

I fully support eliminating invalid registrations. I am disappointed that in practice only citizen challenges cause invalid registrations to be eliminated. Perhaps we should raise taxes to pay to have someone doing this kind of data mining/validation.

Nevertheless, I doubt they will be widespread and sufficient enough to lead a court to rule the election invalid. The % of invalid registrations who voted in CG counties would have to be higher than the % in DR counties by enough margin (weighted by the % of CG vs % DR votes in each county) to make a 129 vote swing likely.