December 01, 2004
The Democrats' Wild Claims

The Democratic National Committee sent out this "Action Alert" begging for money to help steal the Washington gubernatorial race:

I need your immediate help. You've probably heard about the extremely close race for governor here in Washington. Only 42 votes separate my opponent and me, and thousands of ballots across the state haven't been counted.

This is by far the closest race in the history of our state, and one of the closest the nation has ever seen. That means we must make sure that every single legitimate ballot has been counted -- and that means a statewide manual recount of every vote.

Washington state law requires the party requesting the recount to pay for it, and it will cost at least $750,000. The Democratic Party is committed to this recount, but they need your immediate donation today to make it happen. Please give today.

Let me put this race in a little more perspective. Out of nearly 3 million votes cast, only 42 votes separate my Republican opponent and me. That's a difference of 0.0014 percent. The error for voting machines is somewhere between 1 and 2 percent, or 1,000 times as great as the vote difference.

That means that this race is tied, and anything is possible with a manual recount. We must count every vote individually, and we can't do it without you.

Do not let this election slip through our fingers. We are only 42 votes away from victory in Washington, and we are confident that once all the votes are counted, we will win this race. Please help us reach this urgent goal by making a donation today!

There are a number of remarkable things about this e-mail. First, as reader Brendan Vaughan pointed out:
To me, it is amusing that the DNC says they are 42 votes away from a victory. In fact, they are 42 votes away from a TIE!
Which is interesting considering they keep telling us that this race - where Dino Rossi was certified as Governor-Elect yesterday - is a tie.
Another thing I find remarkable is the claim that "thousands of ballots across the state haven't been counted". Really? Where are they? And why weren't they counted?

Finally, also remarkable is the claim that "The error for voting machines is somewhere between 1 and 2 percent". Yesterday on the John Carlson Show I heard WA Democratic spokeswoman Kirstin Brost claim that the error for voting machines was between 1 and 3 percent. Make up your minds. Is it 2 percent or 3 percent? And more importantly, what exactly does this mean and what studies do they have to back up this claim? 1% of the number of votes cast comes to nearly 29,000 votes. So I find this claim to be somewhat implausible. I don't expect anybody in the media to challenge the Democrats on this sort of thing. So I called Kirstin Brost myself in order to get to the bottom of this. I'd be surprised if she actually returns my call, but if she does, I'll let you know what she says.

UPDATE: Kirstin Brost hasn't called me back yet, but an official from the Secretary of State's office has. The Democrats' claim of a 1 to 3 percent error rate on voting machines has been debunked, discarded and, frankly, exposed as pure horseshit. See above for details.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at December 01, 2004 10:38 AM | Email This
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1. Another thing I find remarkable is the claim that "thousands of ballots across the state haven't been counted". Really? Where are they? And why weren't they counted?

You have to think like they do to figure that out. See, they say "thousands of ballots across the state haven't been counted." Then later on they say that "The error for voting machines is somewhere between 1 and 2 percent." In their twisted "logic" they put the assumed machine error rate together with the total number of votes cast to arrive with certainty at the conclusion that thousands of valid votes were ignored by the machines, and therefore not counted.

Ouch. It hurts my brain to think like a Democrat.

Posted by: Skor Grimm on December 1, 2004 11:15 AM
2. Don't worry, they'll think for you, so you won't have to! And heaven forbid, today we read that even the P-I is providing a hint of a warning:

"We called on Democrats last week to do the right thing and pay for a statewide count, not cherry-pick counties in which they expect to glean votes. Presuming Gregoire could win ultimately, she still must be able to govern. And governing requires public trust. Funding hand recounts in a few counties presumed to produce favorable results would, if the lead changes in Gregoire's favor, merely trigger a taxpayer-funded hand recount in all the other counties. That likely would leave a bad taste in the mouths of many voters. Worse, it could lend unwarranted gravitas to so-far scurrilous allegations of a "stolen" election."

If the P-I would say THAT, we should be RAISING HELL about it. But hey, that's just me.

Posted by: P. Scott Cummins on December 1, 2004 11:28 AM
3. I would also be stunned if it was anywhere near 2% error rate...
I called the Sec of State WA office: they said this sounded high, and will call me back.

Posted by: Bleeding heart conservative on December 1, 2004 11:33 AM
4. Demspeak is a most difficult dialect; however, one assumes the "thousands of ballots" are in fact, the ballots deemed illegal by the appropriate election authorities. This gets back to the previous thread about the omission of the adjective "legal" when used in conjunction with "counting every (insert legal here) ballot." On a related question: if the dems lose the manual recount, will they sue?

Posted by: RogerA on December 1, 2004 11:40 AM
5. I have a question:

If 42 votes is a tie, how much of a lead does Gregoire need to be able to claim victory? Where's the line?

Posted by: South County on December 1, 2004 11:54 AM
6. Apparently we are not the only excruciatingly close race left... Click my name for a link to the tie in Montana's race for state House seat #12.

Posted by: Michael on December 1, 2004 11:58 AM
7. I called and talked to someone at Gregoire's campaign office and during our conversation was told that the accuracy of the voting equipment was 0.7%. I doubt the 0.7% that they told me, but 2 - 3 % is crazy. There are a lot of races where the result is within that margin of error. We couldn't hold decent elections of the error was that high.

Posted by: Kenth on December 1, 2004 12:06 PM
8. "We are only 42 votes away from victory in Washington..."


Did the Dems REALLY mean to say that?

One might say that such a statement comes a little too close to an admission by the Dems that they had long ago made up their minds that they had won the election--regardless of the vote count.

When one operates with the presupposition that their own candidate is the winner, a winning vote tally becomes something you must manufacture after the votes are cast, not an impartial counting of ballots. Keep in mind that the Gregoire campaign was supremely confident in their victory prior to election and that the recent "Action Alert" reiterates the Dems' confidence of her victory. One could well argue that their minds are made up.

It is like saying "We know in our hearts that Chris won...we just have to make sure the vote count reflects that." But is THAT any way to run an election we can have confidence in?

Rossi, on the other hand, has a victorious count and a re-count under his belt. He was certified the winner. Those are facts not based upon conjecture or wishful thinking.

Given the Dems' demonstrated concern for Gregoire votes alone, her campaign's claim to the "count every vote" mantle is disappearing fast. It is a ship sinking fast in public opinion. It's time for Gregoire to abandon ship and concede this thing.

Posted by: Seth Cooper on December 1, 2004 12:39 PM
9. The race in Montana for House seat #12 has been great fun to watch. It is full of wonderful ironies.

According to the Democrats stray marks in Montana don't count ("don't count every vote"), but stray marks here in Washington do count ("count every vote").

It's also fun to watch the Republicans fight for the Constitution Party candidate after their candidate ended up a rather distant third. Had the Republican dropped out the Constitution Party candidate probably would have won handily, making the Republican the spoiler in the race. So who is the third party?

I believe that if there is any question on a ballot it should be thrown out, giving the race to the Democrat, but it would be wonderful to see my party get a seat in a state house.

Posted by: Doug on December 1, 2004 01:17 PM
10. Seth, that gives you yet another look into Gregoire's arrogance in thinking she is the rightful gubernatorial heir. She is in denial.

As for public opinion, 70% of komo news viewers think the race should be conceded, the Seattle P-I has started agreeing, and a couple of billboards on I-5 urge concession. I can't see how Gregoire would even want the job anymore under these circumstances, but then again I'm not in denial.

Posted by: Chris on December 1, 2004 01:21 PM
11. Of course she wants the job. Doesn't matter how much rancor she might generate, she'll still have the power of the Office of Governor of the State of Washington. What's the GOP gonna do about it? She and the party are confident that they can deal with what little backlash will occur in '006 and beyond, and frankly, considering how much the voters of this state (especially the neo-Dixiecrats in Seattle) have tolerated from the Dems in the past, they are probably right.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega on December 1, 2004 02:02 PM
12. What's the GOP gonna do about it?

Think Schwarzenegger.

A caller on KVI yesterday was saying that his wife voted for Gregoire, but she was so upset by Gregoire's behavior in this recount mess that she said she felt like leading the charge to recall her if she does somehow turn this around.

Posted by: Skor Grimm on December 1, 2004 03:08 PM
14. anything is possible with a manual recount

Which is why there oughtn't be one.

Posted by: AC on December 1, 2004 04:42 PM
15. I would like to know why the Republican party withdrew the lawsuit involving the two hundred plus votes that were illegally added to Chris Gregoires' vote total. King County did the right thing by a "machine vote", then they took votes that were improperly filled out and copied them to new ballots, so they would be read by the optical scanners. Robert Mack of King5 news even witnessed this and videotaped elections workers guessing voter intent. When I closed my eyes I thought I was in the 1960's Chicago during the Daley era.

Posted by: john fenstra on December 1, 2004 05:10 PM
16. If there is a recount and Gregoire wins by 42 votes, will she and the democrat party then call it a tie and ask for another recount? I doubt it. This thing has to end at some point. I say enough is enough, let it end now.

Posted by: Troy Colley on December 1, 2004 06:02 PM
17. Don't you realize that close counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and when the Dems are on the ballot? 42 votes? Hey, that's close enough to a majority. It should count as one. It's obvious that if things were done correctly, the Dem would have won easily.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega on December 1, 2004 11:19 PM
18. I think the greatest threat to the current election is the completely biased coverage of the Seattle press towards the Democrats, the public has been given precious little information that would indicate fraud at the polls. Only those with a computer and the yen to delve further are able to get some truth of the actual situation. Case in point, the absolutely filthy lead editorial in the PU Friday 30th.

I think the Republican stance is above criticism; of working towards positive proof of fraudulent voting. Rossi could not be more circumspect.

Posted by: John (Jack) Jouett on January 1, 2005 11:56 AM
19. I think the greatest threat to the current election is the completely biased coverage of the Seattle press towards the Democrats, the public has been given precious little information that would indicate fraud at the polls. Only those with a computer and the yen to delve further are able to get some truth of the actual situation. Case in point, the absolutely filthy lead editorial in the PU Friday 30th.

I think the Republican stance is above criticism; of working towards positive proof of fraudulent voting. Rossi could not be more circumspect.

Posted by: John (Jack) Jouett on January 1, 2005 11:56 AM
20. I think the greatest threat to the current election is the completely biased coverage of the Seattle press towards the Democrats, the public has been given precious little information that would indicate fraud at the polls. Only those with a computer and the yen to delve further are able to get some truth of the actual situation. Case in point, the absolutely filthy lead editorial in the PU Friday 30th.

I think the Republican stance is above criticism; of working towards positive proof of fraudulent voting. Rossi could not be more circumspect.

Posted by: John (Jack) Jouett on January 1, 2005 11:56 AM
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